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Kardashians and Beckhams

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itwasadarkandstormy · 05/04/2020 23:24

does anyone actually give a flying fuck about these people at this horrific time? Kim Kardashian posting pictures of herself draped over the sand on some hidden beach and Victoria Beckham filming herself calling nurses with a rallying cheer?

Come on, there are an unprecedented amount of deaths and human tragedy, yet you are cashing in on your 'brand'? For me, it is the height of distaste. They need to fuck off immediately

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EmeraldShamrock · 06/04/2020 22:56

Yes ridiculous in a time where they could do so much to help. Let's hope this pandemic brings us back to earth and let the real heroes shine.
Retail workers, refuse collector's, delivery drivers, the front liners medics carers.
I hope after this we no longer judge who has the best clothes and most likes as better than those who have a menial job.

JediJim · 06/04/2020 23:03

If anything changes after this pandemic I hope it’s the end of the celebratory culture. I hope we see an end to reality tv like TOWIE and Love Island.
The real heroes of this world are the people out there now working through this situation. Nurses, Refuse workers, Bus drivers , retail staff etc etc. I hope people become a lot less shallow and this pointless zelebrity culture is destroyed.

phivephatphish · 06/04/2020 23:08

I didn’t care about either of them before.

EmeraldShamrock · 06/04/2020 23:13

I don't care for them either but you can't help thinking FFS you massive knob-head when you hear what they are doing.
Pink donated a million I'm sure other reserved celebrities have too.
Once the show off type splash the cash they'll be front page while in a bikini.

1forsorrow · 07/04/2020 11:53

HAHAHAHA! You haven’t been able to open a news website or a newspaper over the past few weeks without reading about celebrities bragging about how much they have donated. I see very little evidence of modesty or discretion. Using a crisis as an opportunity to get your gurning mug in the news is worse than ostentatious charitable donation. So the ones who say they have donated are bragging and the ones who aren't saying they have donated are mean selfish whatevers? Truly a you can't win situation.

SlipSlidin · 07/04/2020 11:59

All I know is about 15 years ago a colleague wrote to The Beckhams asking for a donation to her sons cancer fund. Almost immediately she received a cheque for £5000 from Victoria wishing her well and asking her not to discuss it with anyone (which she obviously did but not for some time after). I didn’t think much of her before that but she really went up in my estimation.

1forsorrow · 07/04/2020 12:10

SlipSlidin, that is so like what they did to help my children raise money. The firm that made the item they were raising money to buy for a disabled child told us the Beckhams bought loads from them for children all over the country.

It is a shame people jump to conclusions.

MayTheGodsBeEverInYourFavour · 07/04/2020 12:12

If you are fed up of seeing their posts, unfollow them. Don't click when you see stories etc in the papers. Etc. Or don't, but don't complain about it?

FWIW, I agree with the sentiment of what you're saying. Some celebrities do appear shallow & vacuous, & often seem to promote lives of relentless consumerism & ever-increasing dissatisfaction with what most of the world would consider to be a "normal" life. Obviously, NACALT, & I'm sure some celebrities are perfectly lovely, generous, normal, sensible, grounded, & different behind closed doors, etc.

It's just ridiculous how many people seem to get their ideas of their own self worth, or of other people's, by how many people follow them, "like" them, etc. It's almost as if people can't get along by themselves any more, they need constant validation by strangers to reassure them. Do people really have such fragile egoes (egos?) that the standard now is for a person's locus of their identity to be external to them? How has this happened?

Iamthewombat · 07/04/2020 13:38

So the ones who say they have donated are bragging and the ones who aren't saying they have donated are mean selfish whatevers? Truly a you can't win situation.

Who has said that any celebrity not bragging about charity donations is a ‘mean selfish whatever’?

The reasonable thing to do, if you are a celebrity, is to make a donation but not show off about it. If you do, it’s obvious that what you are really doing is buying publicity for yourself.

Iamthewombat · 07/04/2020 13:39

As for ‘if you don’t like it, don’t read it’:

I will read what I please and I’ll poke fun at who I please.

EmeraldShamrock · 07/04/2020 13:53

@SlipSlidin Wow it was really kind of VB.

ChickLitLover · 07/04/2020 13:55

The reasonable thing to do, if you are a celebrity, is to make a donation but not show off about it.

I agree with this but many of the people in real life that say this act the same themselves. They put on facebook that they’ve donated to something or put a video online of them clapping for Carers. Donating or clapping isn’t enough for them, they have to tell people about it, that’s the bit that makes them feel good. More people are like it than not in my experience.

1forsorrow · 07/04/2020 14:15

Who has said that any celebrity not bragging about charity donations is a ‘mean selfish whatever’?
Well the first reply was this

They could buy key workers protective masks and gloves. Imagine how much they could provide by what they will spend on a couple of days holiday.

and another

Yes ridiculous in a time where they could do so much to help.

I think the implications are quite clear don't you? We don't know they have given anything and they should. Obviously other posts criticising celebrities giving money and letting people know. They can't win can they?

Although this one indicates Pink has given money, presumably someone disclosed that Pink donated a million I'm sure other reserved celebrities have too. Once the show off type splash the cash they'll be front page while in a bikini

So that is criticising people for things they haven't even done yet and maybe won't.

Iamthewombat · 07/04/2020 14:43

No, the first reply suggested that they could provide tangible help without bloody showing off about it. So rather than egomaniacs phoning nurses to sprinkle some stardust and simper about how ‘humbled’ (sic) they feel then posting it on their social media feed, they could discreetly donate.

Fat chance of that! Although I agree with you that it’s a bit odd to hold up Pink as a model of modesty and discretion, since her PR team undoubtedly ‘let it slip’ that she had donated $1m.

1forsorrow · 07/04/2020 16:08

They might well have provided tangible help without showing off. That is the point. I've told you how they helped with a charity without looking for publicity and so has another poster. That isn't good enough is it, you've decided they haven't given anything.

The nurses might have like it, it didn't hurt anyone. Why judge when we don't know the whole story. If you want to give then do so and let other people do what they want. I don't find the phoning nurses story nearly as annoying as the things they keep showing on TV, people dancing in the street, families "performing" kid who can't sing singing. I mean really is that news?

EmeraldShamrock · 07/04/2020 16:22

Yes ridiculous in a time where they could do so much to help That comment was not about financial help, it was about KK on the beach posing. KK has a massive influence on young people along with her Dsis's. I meant she could be spreading the message of how important was to stay in doors, clean hands, etc instead of look me not a care in the world, rolling about in the sand.

Iamthewombat · 07/04/2020 17:01

That isn't good enough is it, you've decided they haven't given anything.

I haven’t made any decisions about what particular celebrities may or may not have donated because I have no evidence base other than the narcissistic Instagram posts, planted ‘here we are during lockdown, don’t forget about us will you? We want to sell you stuff’ stories.

The evidence I can see suggests that they are taking advantage of a crisis to garner publicity for themselves, to attempt to appear relevant and to stoke their giant egos.

It’s lovely to see that you have swallowed their propaganda though. The worst, most calculating type of celebrity needs people like you.

1forsorrow · 07/04/2020 19:40

It’s lovely to see that you have swallowed their propaganda though. The worst, most calculating type of celebrity needs people like you No I'm talking from personal experience, I know they give alot to support individuals and charities, I know they don't seek publicity. You think what you like, Victoria's parents were lovely to my kids, Victoria and David gave their support, sent the kids a note and didn't look for any publicity. I'm not the only one, if you read there is another poster with a very similar experience.

FromEden · 07/04/2020 19:44

Even worse are the ones in LA being pre arranging being papped going to the shop or "exercising" and worse, dragging their kids out with them. Like do Megan Fox and her husband and all the kids really need to visit the store every day? Surely one could stay at home with them?

Iamthewombat · 07/04/2020 21:47

I know they don't seek publicity.

You have been shown many examples of them doing exactly that. It is what they do for a living, and they are now seeking to present themselves as saviours during this pandemic....for publicity. Quelle surprise! You’re not very scientific, are you? Cheerfully ignoring a vast evidence base in favour of one piece of information that fits the narrative spun by your heroes.

You think what you like

Thanks! I will.

Victoria's parents were lovely to my kids, Victoria and David gave their support, sent the kids a note and didn't look for any publicity. I'm not the only one, if you read there is another poster with a very similar experience.

What, one other poster who wrote to them and got some of their spare change? Does that mean that two of the most notorious publicity-seekers are not, in fact, publicity seekers? There is overwhelming evidence to suggest otherwise.

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