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Is there one rule for the rich and another for the poor

151 replies

Therichhavenorules · 04/04/2020 18:24

I know I'm not BU, but I have to rant and hopefully get some replies. Maybe I am?

We live as 'staff' on a rural estate in Norfolk where the owners are multi-millionaires with houses all over the world. We look after their country retreat all year round. We live in a cottage in the grounds. Not a bad situation, but it has its drawbacks. One is, when they are here they have loud parties that take over and zero consideration for us. There are several cottages in the grounds, mostly empty most of the year except for these parties.

They have three children (30s) who live in London. TODAY, middle of lockdown their three adult children decide to arrive with their partners, six adults in total. They've moved into the cottages in the grounds. Its a private estate so no Police to tell them to go indoors. Apparently they'll quarantine, but already they're drinking and starting to party.

They've driven down from London and are blatantly flaunting the rules. The rich are immune to rules. The poor stick to them. If the examples are to be believed and one infected person could infect up to almost 500 people eventually, that means they've potentially brought the virus and could infect up to 3000 people.

I hate them all, they're rude, entitled, snobby, unpleasant cruel people most of the time. We have no choice at the moment, but I for one will be looking to move on as soon as I can.

OP posts:
daisychain01 · 05/04/2020 11:53

People don't want to admit it, but most people do view the rich breaking rules as different to the poor breaking rules

Most people - says you.

You don't know most people so you have absolutely no way of backing this up factually. But feel free to spout crap about what you think other people think. it doesn't make it fact, so who cares

Crazycrazylady · 05/04/2020 13:36

Op

Another one here who agrees that they shouldn't be doing what their doing but the venom dripping off your post is truly startling. You clear despised them and wished them ill ever before you his incident . For your own sake I'd absolutely look for another job. I couldn't imagine working and living beside people I detested as much as you do them. Must be horrendous

alloutoffucks · 05/04/2020 13:44

@daisychain01 On any post here about people going to second homes there are people defending that. Nobody defended poorer people going to caravans.
Both are wrong and indefensible.

Therichhavenorules · 05/04/2020 15:08

There's a post made today about the Scottish Chief Medical Officer visiting her second home. There are almost 9 pages of comments and hardly any disagreeing that this is strictly against the rules and some comments that she should be sacked for this.

The hypocrisy and double standards on Mumsnet never ceases to amaze me. My thread, on an almost identical topic, visiting second homes, is slating me for being jealous and spiteful and telling me to get another job (which incidentally is something I will definitely be doing when this is over).

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Scarletoharaseyebrows · 05/04/2020 15:11

Terrible behaviour but I've also witnessed similar from people who are less than privileged financially too. So, in that respect, YABU. Twatishness is no respecter of cash.

HeIenaDove · 05/04/2020 15:38

@alloutoffucks i totally agree.

alloutoffucks · 05/04/2020 15:52

@Therichhavenorules On posts about second homes I see multiple comments saying but maybe...followed by justifications to travel to your second home.
When people say poor people do it too that is inaccurate. The criminal class do it too. But of course people who already break the law regularly will not follow these ones.
But from talking to friends and family across Britain the poorer areas seem to have less people flouting the rules than rich ones.

Pedallleur · 05/04/2020 15:55

Always has been. If you can afford it you can get away with it.

HeIenaDove · 05/04/2020 15:58

@alloutoffucks And....................bang on cue

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3871922-Staying-home-and-people-living-in-gritty-deprived-areas

alloutoffucks · 05/04/2020 16:05

@helenadove Thanks. Commented. Its like the rich don't want to acknowledge they are more likely to break rules around this.

Alsohuman · 05/04/2020 16:10

Sounds to me as if you’re pissed off you won’t have the beautiful grounds all to yourself, OP. You’re definitely in the wrong job.

TildaKauskumholm · 05/04/2020 16:17

Yes, always. You should refuse to be around them at least for 14 days, if they have the cheeks to also cause Extra work.

HeIenaDove · 05/04/2020 16:24

@alloutoffucks I find it very worrying The one rule for one and another rule for another mentality could lead to civil unrest.

alloutoffucks · 05/04/2020 16:39

I don't think it will lead to civil unrest. I think it will lead to more people flouting the rules.

HeIenaDove · 05/04/2020 16:43

MN has just deleted that thread

So something proving our point..............gone

alloutoffucks · 05/04/2020 16:45

I know, just when it was getting funny

P999 · 05/04/2020 17:36

Its not a rich / poor thing. Its a sekfish arsehole/ not a selfish arsehole thing. My ex BIL is a total fuck who set up tax evasion firms and is still travelling to and from office (and insisting his staff do to). Taxavoidance an essential service? Confused. But i also have v clise friends who happen to be v successful (and higher net wirth than BIL arsehole) who are being v responsible and kind. Your employers are probably like my arsehole ex BIL. They are just one of life's cunts. Good luck. Sorry to hear about what you have to put up with. I'd be yempted to pee in their port. But am no angel myself....

P999 · 05/04/2020 17:40

Or better yet, take their toothbrushes and run them round the rim of their bogs (i got that off another MN thread from a few months ago). Oh, the possibilities.... but seriously, some people justdont give a crap. But its not a rich/ poor thing Flowers

Bluntness100 · 05/04/2020 17:42

Op. Your comments smack of bitterness. You keep going on about them being “rich”. When it’s very clear from the media that rule breaking is across the population, it’s nothing to do with wealth.

The key issue here is you “hate” your employers, and are bitter about their wealth. Biting the hand that feeds you, as it does.

I suggest you look for alternate employment ASAP, because this is nothing about them breaking the rules and everything about the fact you envy them, hate them and are bitter about your position.

Bluntness100 · 05/04/2020 17:46

is slating me for being jealous and spiteful and telling me to get another job

Interesting, I’d not seen that, but the jealousy jumped out at me on here.

What will you do if they see this thread op. Someone who knows them recognises them and lets them know, there are sixteen million members on here,,,, and you end up fired for going on line to hurl abuse at your employers?

Have you changed enough detail so as this doesn’t happen?

daisychain01 · 05/04/2020 17:54

@alloutoffucks I think it's wrong to generalise based on a group's financial status because it's inaccurate and misleading. MN may appear to be the axis upon which the world spins, but there are other opinions just than those published on MN. It's a convenient to use the trope 'most people' to back up an argument, but it invariably weakens it.

fwiw, I have zero insight into the relationship between compliance to this lockdown and people's socioeconomic status. It's equally reprehensible to flout the law because you have the means to do so eg going off to a second home (exactly what they did in Spain and Italy - they all buggered off to the coast and took Corona with them) or because you throwing a BBQ with a few mates. Both are equally harmful in trying to reduce infection. Both acts are selfish because they increase risk.

My beef with the OP is that they must have disliked their rich bosses before Corona, but were willing to carry on working for them. And, ill-advisedly start a thread with identifying details about how they live their lives. Lost the moral high ground I'd say.

Arnoldthecat · 05/04/2020 18:06

I'd suggest the OP considers deleting their post or they may find themselves living in the cottage on the big estate.

Arnoldthecat · 05/04/2020 18:07

sorry,,no longer living in the cottage !

andratuttobene · 05/04/2020 18:14

I don’t understand what the problem is. The population of our village has probably trebled with adult children escaping to their parents’ homes. How is this any different, other than it’s an estate rather than a sprawling rural house? If they are all staying on the estate together what’s the problem? Any excuse for a bit of reverse snobbery on MN, eh?

roarfeckingroar · 05/04/2020 18:15

Sounds like you have the entire McCains factory just sitting there on your shoulder. No wonder you're so pissed off.