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Covid 19 immunisations - would you have it?

153 replies

Toooldfornonsense · 04/04/2020 17:33

Just that really. If and when one becomes available, would you have it?

Taking into consideration the lack of testing time on side effects (I’m meaning years not weeks or months).

Also say if we are tested for immunity and had already had the virus. Would you still have an immunisation? Really interested to hear everyone’s view.

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AlexaShutUp · 05/04/2020 00:02

Yes of course.

skeptile · 05/04/2020 01:48

Smile, I actually believe the opposite, that failure to address these issues openly and honestly (and to compensate the damaged appropriately) feeds the anti-vaxxers.

skeptile · 05/04/2020 02:11

By the way, issues with Covid vaccine safety have already been cited by two eminent vaccinologists. One of them discusses the issue in the Reuters article I linked. And have a look at what Prof Paul Offit (inventor of the rotavirus vaccine, which has saved countless children in the developing world) has to say about what unsafe vaccines do to overall vaccine compliance. The recent dengue fever vaccine tragedy in the Philippines, and, most importantly, attempts to minimise it, resulted in hundreds of children dying from measles because parents lost confidence in the overall vaccine program. Who can blame them, when governments dissemble and conceal? Rushed science leads to bad outcomes. Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

PhilCornwall1 · 05/04/2020 02:36

If and when it is available, if it's a "live vaccine", then no I won't be able to have it.

Imstillskanking · 05/04/2020 02:41

there don't seem to be any after-effects of Covid-19

There are plenty of CT scans of survivors lungs that beg to differ.

DaisyDreaming · 05/04/2020 02:46

I planned never to have a vaccination again after vaccines contributed to some problems but I fear covid19 more than I fear a vaccine
(Btw I’m pro-vax)

myself2020 · 05/04/2020 06:23

Yes. because side effects of vaccines are a mild version of side effects of the real thing. if the vaccine will seriously hurt you, the real thing would as well. so its the vaccine or extended self isolation

CheshireChat · 05/04/2020 12:06

myself2020 surely that's not right in the case of severe side effects, narcolepsy has nothing to do with swine flu, does it?

I'm more or less fully vaccinated btw, I'm pro vax, just being realistic.

teainthetardis · 06/04/2020 10:05

Actually narcolepsy has been established as a possible side effect of the swine flu vaccine. More here: www.narcolepsy.org.uk/resources/pandemrix-narcolepsy

But every medication or vaccine will always have risks.

Scarlettpixie · 06/04/2020 10:16

Yes

iVampire · 06/04/2020 10:17

As PhilCornwall1 said

I’m in the ‘shield’ group. The underlying condition that puts me at high risk from infectious diseases also rules out live attenuated vaccines

OchonAgusOchonO · 06/04/2020 18:06

Actually narcolepsy has been established as a possible side effect of the swine flu vaccine.

Yes, a side effect of the vaccine. Not a mild version of one of the side effects of swine flu itself.

FizzAfterSix · 06/04/2020 18:32

No thanks.

welldonejean · 06/04/2020 19:42

Yes, if the NHS says it’s safe enough

MadMaggiePie · 08/04/2020 02:19

welldonejean

Yes, if the NHS says it’s safe enough

The question is not about safe vaccines. Anything that comes out within a year or two will not have been properly tested in the real world. Anyone who agrees to have it will basically be in a large scale ongoing trial and only time will tell what sort of damage the vaccine might cause (if any).
It’s not up to the NHS to decide how safe a vaccine is. The manufacturers do their own studies (often biased) and are immune from responsibility should their vaccines end up killing or maiming anyone. The JVCI recommend vaccine rollouts and usually base their decision on cost effectiveness rather than vaccine effectiveness. The MenB vaccine is a good example.

Jasmin82 · 08/04/2020 02:51

Yes. I missed 2 months worth of lectures and lab classes in my 2nd year of uni after getting hit horribly by freshers flu and I've struggled with my health ever since. If I ever hope to be able to go back to uni and finish my degree, I can't take chances.

Littleninja1 · 08/04/2020 02:55

Yes I would. I never want to go through the last three and a half weeks ever again, I have never been so ill. I also believe the vaccine will be thoroughly tested before rolled out on a mass scale. I understand the point about long term side effects and it's a consideration but I'd trust the scientists on this. I don't think my lungs would survive another dose of this as they have been wrecked. So yes, if immunity is only fleeting then I would definitely have the vaccine.

BoomBoomsCousin · 08/04/2020 04:48

As well as the general issue over any new medication not having a long history to look at, I think there will be a lot of pressure to rush a vaccine through and to not necessarily be as thorough as they might otherwise be. So I will be more reluctant than I might. I don’t think that would stop me if it looked like a way to save hundreds of thousands of lives but I would certainly prefer to avoid it if I was found to have some naturally acquired immunity.

MadMaggiePie · 08/04/2020 09:18

Littleninja1

I'd trust the scientists on this

Trust them on what? They won't know within 18 months whether it's effective or safe. That takes long term studies. Think thalidamide, or the Urabe MMR. Took a while before anyone noticed they were causing problems. Trusting scientists who haven't tested a vaccine for any length of time is a bit pointless.

Shinebright72 · 24/06/2020 02:21

@KeepWashingThoseHands

So those who think a vaccine is being 'rushed', can you explain what steps you think are being missed?
The immense pressure to find the “cure”. The swobs are inaccurate that they do for Covid many of times and Drs have to look at other giveaways to indicate a positive COVID patient (chest x-ray). I’ve also heard the antibody test is similar that it can be inaccurate too. So based on the COVID being so complex and the reasons already listed. I wouldn’t trial a new vax on the market I’ll take my chances!!
birdy124 · 24/06/2020 02:47

I would get it since the chance of complications from a vaccine are probably less than from the virus.

I probably wouldn't jump to be first in line but I would get it.

WokeUpSmeltTheCoffee · 24/06/2020 21:16

I have had it Smile

Or at least I have had a vaccine and there was a 50:50 chance it was the COVID one because it is as part of a double blind trial (Oxford trial)

I was practically 1st to sign up as soon as the trial was offered through my work. It's a total no brainer for me. I am doing my bit to fight the virus and I might get an effective vaccine that would make it safe for me to see my mum who is shielded. I had a -ve antibody test before starting (no point immunising an immune person) and I get weekly antigen tests.

A vaccine is very safe as far as new medicines go. The carrier virus is already used in loads of vaccines so known to be safe. Its well known generally how vaccines work. It's not anyway near as dangerous as a novel drug with a new mechanism of action (that I would not do cf Northwick Park)

I had it a couple of weeks ago and so far nothing terrible has happened to me or any of my other colleagues who volunteered.

Aragog · 24/06/2020 21:18

I would have it, yes.
I'm classes as clinically vulnerable when it comes to Covid, so I'd rather immunise against it if it was possible. Just like I have the flu jab every year.

Sandybval · 24/06/2020 21:21

As it will help protect others as well then yes, although i would be more hesitant with DS until more was known (he is fully vaccinated, and I do agree that vaccines are incredible- it's just making that decision when the long term effects weren't known is harder for him than making the choice for myself). However if things have gone extremely wrong by then and a vaccine on balance even with the risks is safer than he will have it.

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