To be flabbergasted by this Government’s incompetence.

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*2000 of 500,000 NHS staff tested.
*Germany performing nearly TEN TIMES the number of tests as the UK. despite the WHO saying for weeks and weeks that they key is to “test test test”
*Continuing shortages of basic PPE for health workers (who are being threatened if they speak out)
*Thousands of people still cramming on to public transport, with not one metre let alone 2 metre distance.
*The Government failing to sign up to the EU ventilator scheme.
*Being one of the last Western countries to close schools and implement any kind of lockdown.

I know it’s tough for everyone but this is a level of criminal negligence from the British government. Absolutely shocking.

acorns - no, Trump banned this

But have we? Sorry, I’m finding it hard to find out.

I haven’t heard any announcements saying the UK have barred entry to anyone.

I don’t know if passenger planes normally carry freight

Many do.

Yanbu op.
I particularly find it quite shocking how alot of people dont give a shit about the lack of ppe. I have seen many idiots online saying how Dr's and nurses simply don't need it

They are also coming in to the country. Is it to prevent the collapse of airlines or something like that?

I believe some flights are still scheduled to keep their slots as there are international rules around them (use or lose type set up). Also I believe some of the passenger plans are carrying freight too.

Although the airport arrivals/departures lists are showing many scheduled flights most of them are not operating. If you go on Flight Radar 24 you get a better sense of what planes are actually landing (its not many).

Just been told that my elderly relative who is in hospital with the virus is going to have treatment withdrawn because the doctors say that giving him more antibiotics and fluid is “flogging a dead horse”. He’s been there since Friday sedated and not being helped to eat. They chose to tell us today that we could have brought him food ourselves. Hospital was not answering the phone or communicating with us Re his condition until we contacted senior management. He has dementia so they don’t consider his life worth saving.

There were some reports that the Home Secretary had suggested that borders be closed to people arriving from hotspots, but the government decided against it.

Scheduled passenger flights carry loads of freight downstairs.

Permanent Residents of the USA with Green Card etc are still allowed in.

He has an iPad which we managed to get in but no one is helping him use it to interact with family. I’m shocked at how bad it is. They are basically enacting Euthanasia by deliberately withdrawing treatment including fluids. With no consultation with family to object.

I am sorry that your relative has been treated so appallingly by this hospital Blossom - I am shocked that any medic would use such a phrase to a relative.

I do not understand why they don’t transfer him to another hospital for care if there are supposedly so many beds available?

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I am sorry that your relative has been treated so appallingly by this hospital Blossom - I am shocked that any medic would use such a phrase to a relative.

Yes. I am horrified. This hospital seems to have a bad reputation. I’m upset that he ended up in that particular location but we couldn’t afford to get him housed more centrally in London.

Withdrawal of fluids is commonplace when someone is dying. I know that this is not a comfort to you at the moment. It felt like euthanasia when it happened to us too but we were assured (when we complained) that it was the best course of treatment at that time.

Corby wouldn’t have left our NHS and social care so stripped that we were in such dire circumstances- he at least would have communicated much better with other countries and thought about the effect of isolation and job losses on struggling families.

I'm also extremely glad that Corbyn is not in charge, we'd paying the price in terms of deaths for years and years to come.

I doubt that. If we'd had Labour in power for the last few years the NHS would not have been so run down and we'd have started this thing from a much better position.

The Government failing to sign up to the EU ventilator scheme.

Erm.... we left the EU.... unfortunately

We're still in the transition period and the EU specifically invited us to join the scheme. The Government refused, then lied about it.

Again, I know that this must be very little comfort to you but I think that there are some times when continued treatment is unhelpful and deep sleep is the preferred option.

I am no medic but maybe there might be someone who can explain this better than I can. I can only imagine how your family must feel.

The scale off the task is monumentl and all people do is scaremonger off half truths and unconfirmed stories .
Concentrate on what the have done and the pace it is moving and progress they are making .
Long way to go but in the space of days hundred's of hospital bed reorganised staff in post emergency hospital under construction. thousands and thousands benefit claims being proccessed .
finically packages offers to MILLIONS.
Yes it's far from perfect but by god they are trying .
Constant critisisum and should of voted labours wearing a bit thin now.

Since he has dementia he doesn’t know what’s happening to him. Contact with family would calm him and reassure him but they sedated him heavily instead. We don’t want him to die alone without saying goodbye to anyone, even if it’s via phone or iPad or with no human contact. It seems cruel.

Constant critisisum and should of voted labours wearing a bit thin now

When the Government says it is doing something - and then it turns out to be false, what should the media do?

Erm.... we left the EU

So we don't want their garlic-smelling ventilators with the wrong sort of plug?

They dragged their feet. Plenty of warning back in January. Italy warned us but no they took the risk and did nothing. So now it’s all systems go but late. With Boris isolating etc They are unable to even look after themselves.

Concentrate on what the have done and the pace it is moving and progress they are making .

That’s exactly what most people are concerned about.

Testing, ventilator capacity and PPE provision are well behind where they should be. All of these things were controllable.

We really don’t know at this stage what is a fair appraisal of this or any other governments performance in responding to this global crisis. We, the UK, do appear to have been rather slow off the mark on a number of important fronts; testing, unified messaging, procurement of necessary equipment, such tardiness will cost lives sadly. Perhaps after several years of telling the nation not to listen to experts it takes a little time to perform a u-turn on that messaging.

The healthcare system as a whole is struggling to operate in normal times and is wholly unprepared to respond to a crisis of this scale. At the end of this parliament public spending will be approximately 18% lower per head of this country than 15 years previously. Whatever anyone’s political allegiance it is clear that such cuts will and do have an impact, no more so than in the areas necessary for effectively responding to such a crises.

This shouldn’t be a party political issue at this stage, that will all inevitably follow whether we find that palatable or otherwise.

I hope we are able to look back on the lives saved not the lives lost but I fear that won’t be the case.

The only thing it proves to me is that the NHS is extraordinarily bad at procurement, despite the undoubted heroism of medical professionals.

The only thing it proves to me is that the NHS is extraordinarily bad at procurement, despite the undoubted heroism of medical professionals

This has been a big issue for ages.

Corby wouldn’t have left our NHS and social care so stripped that we were in such dire circumstances

I know some people think he's the Messiah, but even Corbyn couldn't have "solved" the NHS and social care within a couple of months of winning the December general election!