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Just found out his ex passed away - he doesn't know

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CatonNZ · 02/04/2020 02:21

Oh dear God - in addition to what we're all worrying about - here I am on the laptop- in shock and feeling quite sad. Really not sure what the right thing to do is - So I am turning to the Mumsnet Community for help...

I am in a relationship for the past year or so. A lovely older man - (ten years older than I). His ex and he split up almost 30 years ago. Acrimonious split - he was the one who left - there were a lot of problems and I have been told he felt that was the best decision for the family that he leave - but as a result she did not allow him to see the children thereafter - they (namely his stepson) lost touch until about ten years ago - when someone contacted his stepson (who he calls his son). They were able to get together on numerous occasions - I don't think she (his ex) initially knew they'd been in touch for the longest time. But something happened and I believe she found out - for they lost touch once again - he tried to contact his stepson many time but never any reply - so I have been told and yes, I believe that to be absolutely true.

Anyway this evening, I was cruising on Facebook and looked at the stepson's FB page to see how he's been and saw- his mum passed away just before Xmas!?!
Other than feeling really shocked and saddened I'm truly at a loss - she was quite a few years older than my partner. I don't know if it was sudden or due to illness - I must also say my partner mentions them from time to time - always in a fond manner and always respectfully - lately I had thought of quietly contacting the stepson as maybe he felt split into choosing loyalty to his mum - which is understandable but life is short and it saddens me that some families function this way - but I haven't.

I did not feel it fair to do this to my partner without discussion - also the relationship is quite new.

AIBU not to say anything? Keep this quiet? Make like it never happened?
I now wonder what would the repercussion be if I don't say and he somehow finds out- I feel I'm damned if I do or if I don't?

One side of me feels it would be intrusive, it's not my business and it would cause pain - which is the last thing I want for anyone.

It's just really sad the mum (his ex) has passed away and he (my partner) is oblivious to that fact.

The only reason I knew where to look on FB was because my partner actually went online and showed me one evening when we were chatting about family and past lives.

Thanks everyone for reading.

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Escapeistheonlyoption · 02/04/2020 09:45

Think about it, his ex died before Christmas and his step-son has not told him. Whatever the relationship is that they have, I wouldn't be stepping into it.

That was my thought

OVienna · 02/04/2020 09:50

What made you think to look on FB? I am not judging btw. I guess it's possible some people totally lack a snoopy streak but I think most of us have it but some are less honest about it. Given the hours indoors (and online) we are spending now I am sure you could say: Look, I got sick of funny cat videos....It's not like you've gone through his phone, for crying out loud.

I would feel weird not saying anything but the part your partner may resent most is not the snooping but that he now has an obligation to act on it...and not be sure how or whether it would be welcome.

What do you think he'd be bothered about most though? He might not be interested at all...

OVienna · 02/04/2020 09:50

sorry, I see he mentions them. Then I think just say it.

PicsInRed · 02/04/2020 09:52

I don't think that he's told you the full truth of the history there. It's likely that when your partner reinitiated contact with ex's son, ex felt that her son was now old enough to hear the grittier details and that's why step son ceased contact. If he did cease contact. If any of that even happened.

Guys like this do have a tendency to dump themselves back on their kids' doorsteps when they start up with a new women. They use ex-families as a recommendation device "look how nice I am, I have kids and love them" even though in reality they show little interest in actually financially supporting them or doing any of the hard work. Funnily enough, most also claim that the ex took the kids away from them and use that for some great sympathy bonding with New Woman.

30 years ago and they weren't even his kids how long did he even spend in their lives as a "step Dad"? is one of the most tenuous sympathy stories I've ever heard.

Youve only known him a year and hes already got Issues. Be Careful. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

SebandAlice · 02/04/2020 09:53

Yes @HaveatEm

30 years ago people. Ex’s son is now in his 30/40’s. Your DP is a stranger to him. This is all weird.

Louise91417 · 02/04/2020 09:55

Id stay well out of this one..hows your partner ever going to find out you new..what happens if you tell your partner and he tries to make contact with step son and gets rejected..high possibility that he will blame you down the line...no one ever knows what has went on in a partners past relationship, you are hearing one side of the story..stay out of it and say nothing!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 02/04/2020 10:09

this woman hasn't been in his life for 30 years and his step son hasn't had a close bond with him in all that time. I think you should say nothing. It's not like it makes any huge difference to him now, is it? By the sounds of things they were not together all that long and they didn't share any biological children

This ^

But if you really think he should know then drop it into conversation that with everything weird that is going on it the world right now, perhaps it would be a good time for him to drop his step son a line and check that he's doing ok. That way, if he cares enough, he'll find out for himself. If not then just mind your own business.

And perhaps this ^

anotherlittlechicken · 02/04/2020 11:58

@CatonNZ

I wouldn't say anything. If your DH was THAT close, and he cared THAT much, he would know she had passed wouldn't he?

Reminds me somewhat of a friend of mine whose husband's mother died after battling cancer for 2 years. Her sister had had fuck-all to do with her for over 15 years. No phone calls, no visits, no letters, no Christmas cards, no birthday cards, NOTHING. She left the area in 1998, (moved 100 miles away,) and she never left a forwarding address, or kept in touch. They weren't super close, but there was no bad blood either.

So my friend's DH didn't tell his mother's sister that she had died.

Some 2 years later, the sister found out (from someone on facebook) that her sister had died 2 years earlier, and contacted my friend's husband, and went loco on him, calling him all sorts of nasty names, saying he was a nasty c*nt for not telling her about her sister's death. (He wasn't on her friends list - you can still message people who aren't on your friends list.)

He messaged back saying 'if you were THAT close to MY MOTHER, you would have KNOWN she had died, and also that she has been very ill for several years, with cancer! I owe you nothing. No piss off out of my life you old witch.' Then he blocked her.

Probably not his finest moment insulting her, but she deserved it.

This situation is similar. The OP's husband has had shit-all to do with his ex (from several decades ago) for many years. He does not need to know.

PieceOfMaria · 02/04/2020 12:11

Oh dear God - in addition to what we're all worrying about - here I am on the laptop- in shock and feeling quite sad.

Other than feeling really shocked and saddened I'm truly at a loss

You've known this man for a little more than a year, you've not met his estranged STEPSON (he's not even actual son) and he has had little more than sporadic with him in 30 years either.

Quite honestly, I find your emtional reaction to this is odd, and excessive and misplaced. Confused

I must also say my partner mentions them from time to time - always in a fond manner and always respectfully

I find this unusual. My DH and I both have ex-spouses from 30 years ago (no children from those marriages) and we almost never have a reason to mention our exes to one another, and haven't done in probably 28 of the 30 years since we both got divorced and got together. While I am sure he occasionally googles/FB checks her to see what she's up to, as do I with my ex, purely out of curiosity, we certainly don't feel the need to discuss it with one another.

I had thought of quietly contacting the stepson as maybe he felt split into choosing loyalty to his mum - which is understandable but life is short and it saddens me that some families function this way

That would be weird and interfering. They are NOT a family. He was with this woman for a relatively short time by the sounds of things. Once the relationship ended there was obviously no pretence or effort to keep this father/son thing going, whether that was his choice or not. It is not the same as feeling an obligation to, or deep longing for a relationship with a biological child, unless he literally brought this boy up from a baby for many years, much like an adoptive parent would. Even if he did, the lack of contact for thirty years would mean this man would barely remember him being his 'father' and living at home anyway. I doubt very much he considers him his father at all.

I have an estranged step sibling and half sibling from my father's second marriage who I have had very little contact with since childhood, because contact with my (now deceased) father was always very sporadic. I know where they are and they know where I am - we could find each other if we wanted to, but apart from seeing one another when he died, we have just never felt the need to make a big deal about being 'family.'

I've nothing against them, I wish them well, we just aren't close - more like distant cousins. I would think it was pretty fucking weird if some random person who'd been involved with my step/half sibling for only a year started messaging me to try to involve me in their lives now, after 40 years.

I did not feel it fair to do this to my partner without discussion - also the relationship is quite new.

You are right about that. Don't overstep boundaries.

I now wonder what would the repercussion be if I don't say and he somehow finds out- I feel I'm damned if I do or if I don't?

There won't be any repercussions. Why on earth would there be repercussions? He hasn't seen her for THIRTY YEARS. He left her. He didn't love her any more. This is madness.

One side of me feels it would be intrusive, it's not my business and it would cause pain

Yes it would be intrusive and no it's not your business. It wouldn't cause pain so much as bewilderment I imagine.

It's just really sad the mum (his ex) has passed away and he (my partner) is oblivious to that fact.

Again, absolutely nothing for you to be feeling so sad about. Do you react this way over everything? Because it's not normal.

CatonNZ · 02/04/2020 12:36

Thanks everyone for sharing your perspective. It’s great to get so many different points of view.

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