Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Has anyone seen what's going on on India?

212 replies

twinkletits99 · 01/04/2020 15:42

I've just seen some of the footage and am reduced to tears. People bring beaten in the streets. Migrants being forced to bathe in disinfectant spray. People breaking down because they fear they are going to starve to death before coronavirus has a chance to take them. I'm quarter Indian and whilst I have no real connection to India other than that, I couldn't help but feel utterly hopeless for them.

OP posts:
MarginalGain · 01/04/2020 17:52

It's very sad but people have been banging on about police brutality and state corruption and human rights abuses in India forever (Kashmir, for example) - why has it come to this?

It's just terrible. Please give money if you can.

If something good comes of this, it will be a spotlight on human rights in India.

LoveFameTragedy · 01/04/2020 17:54

The BBC news last night was showing people being drenched in chemicals, and suggesting that there was poor control of policing, together with people racing to get home/find somewhere to day. Was it not also India where they only gave four hours notice of lockdown, and so many people had no food in?

HerMajBishop · 01/04/2020 17:54

It’s very upsetting seeing what’s going on in India.

Tip of the iceberg worldwide, I imagine.

I saw an awful news piece about the townships in South Africa, where people are crammed in and the lee doesn’t seem to be a concerted effort to get the social distancing message out.

I can’t imagine what is happening with all these migrant camps around the med and in war torn places like Syria.

converseandjeans · 01/04/2020 18:01

hermaj yes it will be terrible if the virus starts spreading round refugee camps. Those poor people in Syria have already had enough trauma without this.

UYScuti · 01/04/2020 18:05

it will be terrible if the virus starts spreading round refugee camps
there is no 'if' :(

CatBatCat · 01/04/2020 18:09

This all started happening before actual lockdown restrive measures were in place in India. Over 1000 fast fashion factories were closed pretty much overnight when the west retailers stopped placing orders a few weeks ago. More info here www.fashionrevolution.org/the-impact-of-covid-19-on-the-people-who-make-our-clothes/

Branster · 01/04/2020 18:17

It really is horrific I was talking about it with my mum last night.it breaks my heart and I really can’t see how will such a big country be able to contain the spread. I do hope that smaller more isolated villages will have some success with self imposed quarantine restrictions.
Although we don’t have the hard evidence, as others have mentioned, China and North Korea wouldn’t fare much better at all.
And there are other places where mass abuse is taking place. The reality is that the set up simply doesn’t exist to organise a mass closure in India. And there’s the aspect of reliance on top up mobile phones which is impossible to do under a strict lockdown.

UYScuti · 01/04/2020 18:24

China and North Korea wouldn’t fare much better at all
China claim to have it all under control hardly any deaths, 2 per million of the population, massively lower than other countries

Cherrytangfastic · 01/04/2020 18:34

The BBC is so filtered and biased.

Try Al Jazeera for real news!

We switched a few years ago and it's been a real eye opener.

LuluJakey1 · 01/04/2020 18:35

This was shocking yesterday
Coronavirus: Anger as migrants sprayed with disinfectant in India www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52093220

LuluJakey1 · 01/04/2020 18:36

Coronavirus: India's pandemic lockdown turns into a human tragedy www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52086274

BertieBotts · 01/04/2020 18:36

What do you mean, "if the virus starts spreading" - it already has. The refugee camps are overrun with it and people are unable to access clean water and soap, let alone proper healthcare.

We are extremely lucky.

Branster · 01/04/2020 18:42

UYScuty the trouble is that in those two countries their enforcing methods are not human rights friendly. They already have a well organised system to control the masses and it doesn’t rely on asking them nicely.
And there isn’t much transparency in their reporting.
Also China must keep everything under control and demonstrate their condition has improved, for clear economic reasons.
I hope I’m wrong, but can’t help wondering how many Chinese construction workers have been injured and were over worked during the construction of the emergency hospitals.
Of corse China is completely different than North Korea.But human rights are not their forte.

BovaryX · 01/04/2020 18:46

^And people here bleat police brutality if they are drone filmed or asked what they are doing?

But that's the point. Being able to and prepared to speak up over the minor transgressions are what keep the major ones at bay^

The police asking what someone is doing is not 'a minor transgression.' It is what most countries with a functioning police force regard as normal policing.

We're not 'lucky we live in a country where this doesn't happen (much)

Yep. You absolutely are lucky. By an accident of birth or because of a deliberate immigration decision, you are living in a Western liberal democracy. Most of the planet doesn't look like Europe.

TabbyMumz · 01/04/2020 18:46

In the 1918 spanish flu, 18 million people died in India

TheSandman · 01/04/2020 18:50

At the time of posting the English version had two stories from Africa on it's 'front page' the French had seven.
Isn't that because they are former French colonies?

Possibly, but Britain had more than a few colonies of its own in the not too distant past.

BovaryX · 01/04/2020 18:55

What do you mean, "if the virus starts spreading" - it already has. The refugee camps are overrun with it and people are unable to access clean water and soap, let alone proper healthcare

Well said. One of the things this dreadful virus exposes is the nature of the relationship between government and citizens. In the UK, people talk about a police state when Boris Johnson asks UK citizens to refrain from social interaction and please stay at home. Meanwhile, the grim scenes of baton wielding cops and helpless people with nowhere to go highlight the vast differences between the West. And much of the rest of the planet.

MrsKypp · 01/04/2020 18:56

I think it was even worse in China, just not filmed. They welded people into their homes, caught them with nets, etc

Legoandloldolls · 01/04/2020 19:01

I saw this on sky and Twitter and it made my rear up. I'm just beginning to see how sanitised the BBC news is.

They didntvtalk about covid innjan or Feb. They are showing what's going in America. It's like news for children.

BeetrootRocks · 01/04/2020 19:19

Yes Al Jazeera is v good I watch it to get s broader range of world stories and the reporting is excellent.

Emerald89 · 01/04/2020 19:24

Disgusting this isn't being televised in the UK

viques · 01/04/2020 19:25

It is appalling, having seen first hand the level of dire poverty in Delhi I am not surprised. Delhi is a city of two halves, glorious villas with huge gardens on immaculate wide streets, and people who live their lives literally on the streets. And meanwhile the Indian government spends millions on space programmes and vanity monuments to dead politicians.

WinterIsGone · 01/04/2020 19:27

Possibly, but Britain had more than a few colonies of its own in the not too distant past.
Which is why what's happening in India is covered by the bbc, but not, say, Mali. The news channels cover what is of most interest to its viewers.

WinterIsGone · 01/04/2020 19:28

Disgusting this isn't being televised in the UK
It was on the bbc yesterday.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.