To think it's A CHEEK to offer year long visas for migrant health workers

[Brookeinabook]

We should be offering them permanent residence and heaps of gratitude and a pay rise

What makes you think they want permanent residence? Pretty arrogant assumption.

She hasn't assumed anything.

She said offered to them, not forced on them. They of course would have the right to decline.

What makes you think they want permanent residence? Pretty arrogant assumption.

Why's it arrogant? I don't know if they want permanent residence but imo it's a more generous and realistic offer than a ONE YEAR visa to thank them for all they're doing. I think that is arrogant

They of course would have the right to decline

Exactly. What use is staying one year? especially when they can't exactly leave at the moment anyway

There should be a rule that posters must put link and/or more info instead of having a 1 sentence rants

Why just migrant health workers, why not all migrant key workers?

Ok. I just found it.
Your rant is wrong.

The reason why they have automatic extention on their visas is more practical rather than "thank you". It's so they don't have to worry about reapplying or overstaying

Maybe we should stop encouraging them to train at great expense to their country and then come to the UK leaving their own country without the benefit of their services? At the same time we should make working conditions for UK medical staff - from auxiliaries upwards - better so that they aren't taken advantage of and are paid a decent wage and don't want to go and work overseas.

Yeah I agree they should be offered it @Brookeinabook

And I have no idea what @Forza14 is on about!

There is nothing arrogant about what you said OP. It's a nice/kind suggestion.

We should be offering them permanent residence and heaps of gratitude and a pay rise
Why? Not saying we should or shouldn't but just wondering why?

Note this is for the ones who are currently here. And their families. Not for new ones to come.

YABU
We absolutely should not be poaching hcp from other countries during a global pandemic. That's as bad as Trump trying to poach vaccine scientists from Germany so he can have an American only vaccine.

But I agree with @GrumpyHoonMain ALL key workers should be offered permanent residence.

YABU
No immigrant should be offered permanent residence, pay rises and heaps of gratitude in return for working for 1 year in health care.

-They have a visa so they can work. This visa can be renewed every year so they are not limited to just one year. After five years, they can apply for permanent residence (which is expensive). So it’s not like this is being withheld from immigrant workers.
-They are paid the same as local resident health care workers- and so no pay raise because they should not be paid more than local workers.
-There is no reason to be especially grateful to a health care worker after only 1 year service when we have hundreds of thousands of workers who have provided 25+ yrs of service. 1 year is a blink of an eye.

I don’t know if you understand that the longer the visa, the higher the fee. Also the fee to apply for permanent residence is high. Offering a 1 year visa means that the fee is more affordable for immigrants to emigrate and give working in the U.K. a try. If you demand that a prospective worker commit to permanent residence up front and pay that fee before they move to the U.K., you will make it inaccessible and unaffordable to many workers who only want temporary work or who are unsure it is a good move for them.

Maybe we should stop encouraging them to train at great expense to their country and then come to the UK leaving their own country without the benefit of their services? At the same time we should make working conditions for UK medical staff - from auxiliaries upwards - better so that they aren't taken advantage of and are paid a decent wage and don't want to go and work overseas.

This. The real issues.

Nobody is gonna be 'poached!' It would only be an offer FGS. And plenty of British born/British trained people work overseas!!

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-nhs-visa-doctor-nurse-paramedics-home-office-migrants-a9438211.html%3famp

It's FOR CURRENT NHS STAFF so they don't have to worry about it

This is why I said there should be rule about OP having to provide more info

Essentially home office now saved overseas staff and their families hundreds of pounds and lots of stress. That's it. No poaching, no coming in for just a year...

People need to come here for a chat, not actual information-there’s just so much around that’s nonsense. Its a real shame.

I agree it should be for all migrant key workers.

Thanks for the link omgtherearenoplanesabovemenow hope it sasitifes the thread police

Well, I was (i assume) the thread police, so yes. Thread police is satisfied by a factual information now.

oh yes, both the police and the rescue service all in one

I have many talents.