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Tiger king

68 replies

Jumpingforgin · 28/03/2020 22:36

Aibu to think that Joe Exotic should be released from prison, and Carole Baskin locked up in his place? 😁

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wibblewobblejiggle · 28/03/2020 22:44

He should definitely be in prison.
So should she.

POP7777777 · 28/03/2020 22:45

They're both crazy. That programme scares me but I can't stop watching!

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 28/03/2020 22:48

I think he was possibly set up but he's obviously as mad as a box of frogs. I didn't know what to make of her. I watched it with my jaw on the floor - I then watched the Louis Theroux programme with Joe Exotic in it.

Vgbeat · 28/03/2020 22:49

I've been waiting for someone to post about this all day. Carole definitely killed her husband. I ended up feeling very sorry for Joe and her hubby was definitely tiger food. I've seen some brilliant memes today about the show and is possibly the best car crash TV ever.

PositiveVibez · 28/03/2020 22:51

They both need to be locked up.

Let's not overlook Joe's coercive relationships with young men who he basically kept drugged up to the eyeballs - much like his tigers.

That 'doctor' nutter should also be locked up.

That series was FUCKING MENTAL, but absolutely gripping.

MusicTeacherSussex · 28/03/2020 22:52

Just watched ep1... popcorn out!

Tinkerbell456 · 28/03/2020 22:52

To be quite honest, I didn’t like either of them. Joe did himself no favours with all that stuff on the internet, but that doesn’t make him guilty. Also, it seems he wasn’t actually in the room when the murder plot was discussed. On the other hand, he deserves life simply for fashion crimes! I was astounded though that it is so easy to keep exotic animals, hell, in your suburban backyard if you want to. Totally cruel.

Chiyo666 · 28/03/2020 22:52

They should all be locked up!

Annonymiss123 · 28/03/2020 22:53

I think he was possibly set up but he's obviously as mad as a box of frogs

^ This ^

We just binged on the entire series today.

Carole is a evil genius!

Leaannb · 28/03/2020 22:54

Why should Carole Baskin be locked up?

Tinkerbell456 · 28/03/2020 22:55

I reckon she killed her first husband too. Not a nice man, but not really the point.

HeIsAVeryBadBoy · 28/03/2020 22:56

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/streamed_tv/3861190-Tiger-King-with-SPOILERS

Thought some of you might be interested in this thread ^ Wink

thistimelastweek · 28/03/2020 22:56

Bat shit crazy. Each and every one.
And they are all allowed to have guns!

Vgbeat · 28/03/2020 22:56

@leaannb for murdering her husband

Chiyo666 · 28/03/2020 22:58

I’m most agitated though by how Dons daughters look older than their mum Grin

Sexnotgender · 28/03/2020 22:59

I’m 3 episodes in, what the actual fuck?

“Doc” is a dick and I hope he gets eaten by a tiger, slowly.

AngstyAnnie · 28/03/2020 23:02

I’m most agitated though by how Dons daughters look older than their mum

Me too! Although considering she got married at 14... Shock

The show is batshit and every man in it is as predatory as those cats.

Veterinari · 28/03/2020 23:02

Carole basking was a victim. The below is from someone who was actually involved in the documentary and court case:

The public vitriol I’ve seen toward Carole Baskin following the release of Tiger King is sexism at its most wicked. It’s hard to blame those who don’t have a history of this world for taking away the impressions they have. The filmmakers deliberately set out to show you a world in which everyone is just as guilty as the others, but that’s just not the reality.

Let’s review. Joe was cited for more than 200 violations of the federal Animal Welfare Act while he was exhibiting animals. He’s been fined and had his license suspended. He bred untold hundreds, probably thousands of baby big cats and sold them, illegally, to anyone who would pay for them with zero qualms about what would happen to them. He sold cubs to Doc Antle and others knowing that the cubs would be killed after they were too big to be used for public encounters. He sold cubs to Tim Stark knowing that they would suffer painful declawing surgeries that Joe admitted to me that he knew were horribly cruel. He took advantage of young, poor, drug addicted men. He fed them drugs and made them dependent on him. He admitted to shooting five tigers in the head to make room for tigers he was being paid to board. He warehoused hundreds of tigers in prison-like cell blocks at his roadside zoo. He kept two cats to a cage in which these animals who have home ranges of hundreds of miles in the wild could only take a few steps in any direction. The dirt under their paws was so permeated with years of built-up urine that the ammonia stench was overwhelming even in the parking lot. The stressful conditions often led to fights between the cats, and despite painful and gruesome injuries, he would deny them vet care, often trying to stitch up the wounds himself. This inevitably led to even more pain and suffering prior to death.

He terrorized Carole for years and encouraged his followers to do the same. He (or one of his followers) put snakes in her mailbox. He flew a helicopter over her property to frighten and intimidate her. He paid a man to hunt and kill her and took steps for another man to do the same. Sure, based on the evidence presented in the series, Jeff Lowe should probably be in prison right alongside Joe. But don’t think for one second that Joe isn’t guilty of the crimes for which he was convicted. The documentary doesn't tell you this, but other than himself, Joe's defense had only one witness at trial. It was me. That's how weak his case was.

On the other hand, there’s Carole. She realized decades ago that keeping wild and exotic cats as pets was wrong, and converted her facility to a sanctuary. That sanctuary is accredited by the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries, which has the strictest standards for captive wildlife care of any accrediting body in the world The series didn’t present accurate representations of the enclosures for cats at Big Cat Rescue. I’ve been there. Big Cat Rescue provides its residents with excellent facilities and impeccable care. Most of Big Cat Rescue’s staff are volunteers. This is not unusual for reputable sanctuaries. Their training program for volunteers is second-to-none. They allow the public to visit for limited guided tours. Again, this is typical of reputable sanctuaries, which use guided tours both to bring in desperately needed revenue to provide the best possible care to animals that are extremely expensive to care for, and to educate the public about the cruelty that wild and exotic cats face in the pet trade, in roadside zoos, and in circuses and the film and tv industries. After each guided tour, Big Cat Rescue offers participants the opportunity to call their federal representatives, right there on site, to ask them to support the Big Cat Public Safety Act, which would outlaw private ownership of big cats and restrict direct contact between big cats and the public. Carole and Big Cat Rescue are tireless advocates for wild and exotic cats and never turn down an opportunity to help. Carole has been the captive industry’s whipping boy for years, facing bullying and terror that none of us could imagine. But she is tough as nails and she takes it, because for Carole it’s about helping the cats, it’s not about her. She has persevered in this fight despite being terrorized, and stalked, and hunted. She doesn’t need me to come to her defense because she is strong as hell, but I’m incredibly dismayed by all of the hate I’ve seen online, and couldn’t stay silent for one more second.

wibblewobblejiggle · 28/03/2020 23:13

There is not a single part of me that believes Carol is a victim.

I think she's a psycho bitch. Her ego and money means more to her than those tigers.

givemeacall · 28/03/2020 23:14

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Tillygetsit · 28/03/2020 23:21

Just about everyone in that series should be locked up apart from the girl with one arm. I couldnt believe what I was watching.
All of them predatory egomaniacs.

wibblewobblejiggle · 28/03/2020 23:34

Turns out she is a he now.

Chiyo666 · 28/03/2020 23:47

Whaaaaaaat

BrooHaHa · 28/03/2020 23:50

Is it bad that I thought you meant King Tiger from Hey Duggee?

AngstyAnnie · 28/03/2020 23:53

No?!!!

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