To draw your attention this video of a champion boxer encouraging men to knock their female partners out during this lock in?

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link is here to view, warning, is disturbing

He has blocked me on twitter.

Billy Jo Saunders.

What a bloke

I did see a video of a champion woman boxers direct response to the video - if a man is coming at you to ‘finish you off’ duck down and punch him in the nuts as hard as you can.

Isoskdidin88282 I see you have done a volte face on your earlier comments but a couple of things puzzle me. Why would you leap to the defence of someone over something when you have not made yourself aware of exactly what you are defending? Also, your comment about knowing what you should be thinking after seeing evidence of this incident and others - why are you not thinking what you admit you should?

There is one thing I do, unfortunately, agree with you on and that is that he will be allowed to fight again because money talks and everything and everyone else is irrelevant in the worship of lucre.

Gervonta Davis is also a boxer who assaulted his girlfriend and he wasn’t even suspended. I think after the virus when boxing restarts BJS will be back.

Reading his replies makes my skin crawl

People like BJS are not good people with good hearts. People with good hearts don't make jokes about DV.
I'm sure the families of the murdered women and children in today's headlines aren't finding any humour in it.

Yeah I never said what he did was right. He’s a dick, I know, but if you know him, like myself, he does have a good heart. Not just me who agrees, most of the boxing community also share the same view.

People with good hearts don’t make videos about punching women or offer drug addicts money for sex and film it. Stop deluding yourself. Nasty bloke.

A good heart? Don't fucking kid yourself! A man like that is the worst of the scum. A creepy little goblin who thinks hitting women is funny. Twats like him should be put down firmly.

if you know him, like myself, he does have a good heart. Not just me who agrees, most of the boxing community also share the same view

I'm sure they do, but I'd suggest that those who revel in an activity which glorifies violence - whose very aim is to hit someone as hard and as often as possible - are unlikely to view this in the same way as more rational folk

What does ‘having a good heart’ mean though? He’s been recorded doing some pretty short stuff.

Shitty, shitty stuff!

I think that saying things like he has a good heart, or he was always a good boy, or he always looked after his nan etc

Are just the automatic excuses that people give to men they admire who do shit things. No one wants to think that someone they admire is a terrible person.

I suppose the most obvious example of this effect is how men who are 'geniuses' get forgiven pretty much anything in the film industry.

Thinking some more and about recent cases with footballers/ rugby players who have done awful stuff (different sort of awful to this guy) and the unwavering support of the people who supported their teams. It's a basic tribalism thing I suppose?

To me though that video, watching his face, that was no joke. I can imagine a lot of men finding it funny though, because in the end even 'good' men enjoy things that put women down, you only have to have a passing aquaintance with mainstream het porn to know that.

A lot of men just don't like women very much. The older I get the more I realise that.

I think that saying things like he has a good heart, or he was always a good boy, or he always looked after his nan etc

And they'll probably say it if he kills a woman too. See this article about a man who killed his wife and 2 kids. His sister defends him:

Yesterday the officer’s sister Gloria said she couldn’t understand her brother’s motives but insisted he loved his family. She wrote: ‘He is the best man and father I have ever known and I wish I could have told him that so he knew how much he was loved and looked up too.’

metro.co.uk/2020/02/22/dad-murdered-wife-two-sons-family-holiday-disney-world-12284010/

They are always ‘good dads’ aren’t they? Like the most recent one, I expect to see comments about what a nice man he was.

Yes, it seems being a good dad has a very low benchmark for many. Also shown by many posters on MN live with men who do bare minimum parenting and say 'he's an amazing dad.'

Always makes me wonder what their own Dad was like.

WTF?

he does have a good heart. Not just me who agrees, most of the boxing community also share the same view.
That doesnt say much about the boxing community, does it? So much for bringing the sport into disrepute if everyone behind the scenes is just patting him on the back.

Maybe they're all desensitised as they watch people beat the shit out of each other on a regular basis. Or maybe that poster was only speaking for himself, not the whole 'boxing community'. Having no interest in boxing or violence in general, I can objectively say that this individual does not 'have a good heart'. If he killed someone, it would no doubt be blamed on 'stress', as seen in recent events. Depressing but oh so predictable.

If someone is nice to some people and abusive or cruel to others then the people he is nice to need to worry about when they stop being useful to him.

Tommy Saunders his father is a gobshite too. He calls men he doesn't like " sluts". Including Eddie Hearn, later his sons promoter.

His older son Tom junior, BJS's older brother, was a rising boxing star and then suddenly walked away from it all. His Dad refers him as a "disappointment. "

The grandson Steve, ( BJS son,) is boxing too at junior level. Go back a few years, and he was punching and kicking Willie Monroe, his Dads opponent, in the genitals at a weigh in prior to a fight. ( On youtube)

He's a kid, and expected by father and grand father to carry on that baton of misogyny. It's all he knows. You gain respect by being violent is what he has been taught.

BJS has a very young daughter too, God help her.

Three generations of violent males hiding under the banner of "sport".

Because they know how to thump people, makes them diamond geezers in the eyes of those who think it's ok to thump women, children, and anyone who looks at them a bit funny.

It puts boxing in a very bad light. I used to enjoy watching it as it was controlled and regulated and judged on technical skill. Now I'm not so sure if the participants behave like this outside of the ring....No referees on hand in domestic violence situations.

A lot of Nazi officers were also family men, loving fathers and husband's, fishing out death sentences to millions of people in death camps...

Well at least the Mirror had a headline today Builder who 'killed partner and kids'... was 'nasty piece of work'' of course these are some neighbours 'seemed like a nice family...' but:

"A former next-door neighbour of the couple has described Robert as a 'nasty piece of work', who she would take care to avoid. "Kelly was all right but he was a bully," she told the Mail Online.

"He was rude, he let that dog out at all hours of the night. She was nice but I kept away from him.

"He was ignorant and also made a lot of noise but he would complain to my landlord about me exercising in the house at tea time... I just didn't want to get into a confrontation with him."

Oh god - the details of the story above are seeping out now and it’s just beggars belief. Avoid if you are likely to cry, because it is heartbreakingly.