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To draw your attention this video of a champion boxer encouraging men to knock their female partners out during this lock in?

305 replies

RoyalBankOfFuckThis · 28/03/2020 16:52

link is here to view, warning, is disturbing

He has blocked me on twitter.

Billy Jo Saunders.

What a bloke Hmm

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OhCaptain · 30/03/2020 17:48

He doesn’t give a shit about the travelling community.

He is the very worst stereotype of both travellers and boxers. If he had any respect for his sport or his community, he would present himself as a decent human being.

I guess he’s just not that good an actor...

JuanSheetIsPlenty · 30/03/2020 17:50

Yep, throw money at it. Typical.

I’d be far more convinced if he actually decided to learn about DV, read some victims real experiences, recognise himself in those stories, stand up in front of all his followers and admit how wrong he has been for so long and book him into some sort of abuser workshop to learn how to actually engage with and live with women properly.

Annamie · 30/03/2020 17:56

@Isoskdidin88282

When you put it like that, yeah I know what I should be thinking.

What would it take to make you think differently of him? What would he have to do?

alexdgr8 · 30/03/2020 18:13

this sort of thing makes me reflect on the value of things we take for granted.
for example we can only appreciate the value of education, in the widest sense, when we see what the absence of it looks like.
part of any education is to make us socially aware and responsible as part of society, with respect for the norms and values of that society.
more considerate of others, taking turns, sharing, giving everyone a fair chance. the alternative is rampant individualism where might is right, and i take what i want because i can, a fascist approach.
civilisation is more than a veneer of respectability. it is the rule of law, a sense of justice, an aspiration to fairness. and compassion. and enough self-restraint to listen and learn in what way we might be harming others; the nurturing of empathy. takes an act of will, and good direction. that is what i mean by education.

this person's way of life and background has not fitted him for these grown-up accomplishments.

SlipSlidin · 30/03/2020 19:53

What an utter cunt. So glad this has backfired spectacularly for him.

Sh05 · 30/03/2020 21:42

He's had his 'licence to fight' suspended if the news I've read is accurate. It's not enough in my eyes but it's a start

RoyalBankOfFuckThis · 30/03/2020 21:47

His latest apologies are pathetic and untrue.

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ocarinan · 30/03/2020 21:53

He could probably be filmed committing cold-blooded murder and his fans would still defend him, just like his pal Tyson Fury.

StealthPolarBear · 30/03/2020 21:57

"
Today 17:42Notredamn

He has a good heart

Why is this bollocks always said about the worst men? It's the go-to phrase for people who defend pond life."
I bet he loves his old mum too

BeetrootRocks · 30/03/2020 21:58

Thinking about how it's ok to make a vid like this about a man punching his female partner and how to make it about any other group would be totally unacceptable

I'm getting pissed off with the men at my work (my work is v male dominated) 'joking' in the run up to lockdown about how they wouldn't be able to stand being with their wives/ partners 24/7. Since it's happened I've seen two men really lose the plot over their partners who are also WFH making noise. And the thing about rape jokes occurred to me, how most men think it's a joke but for some, when the other men laugh, it gives support to what they think. And I thought. I assumed before that these men were all joking. Now I realise, quite a lot of them probably weren't. And moreover, that a lot of the men listening probably realised that. Yet again in a situation where it's men men men and me, I realised that my generous female interpretation of what was going on, was probably way off the mark.

SharonasCorona · 30/03/2020 22:00

I bet he loves his old mum too

Jimmy Saville kept his mum's clothes hanging in plastic in a wardrobe for years after she died

Guyonhere1 · 31/03/2020 01:00

A bit sad that he’s been receiving death threats though. No need for that.

VistaOfFreedom · 31/03/2020 01:10

Shocking. Why hasn't it been removed?!

AutumnRose1 · 31/03/2020 01:23

Am I happy with his boxing licence being removed? It’s a start, but the only way he might really improve is with shooting.

I can’t get worked up about him getting death threats when he’s basically tried to teach people to do massive physical harm.

BeetrootRocks · 31/03/2020 01:48

Who has been sending death threats?

No he doesn't want shooting.

What we need is for this to be as unacceptable as lessons on how to hurt/ knock out/ kill any other group. He explicitly links his advice to men losing their tempers being at home all the time. Other countries have seen increases in DV. Women are killed at a rate of 2 per week or so by men they know. Look at his face, it's not a joke. Why are female partners the only group it's ok to do this sort of thing. Ok there's a lot of stuff about not being able to stand children but, that's a bit different and a vid advising how to kill them would prob not go down well.

Watching it, he's not joking though is he. He looks pissed off and serious.

AutumnRose1 · 31/03/2020 01:56

Beetroot I didn’t say he wanted it, I said he might improve with it!

You’re right, look at his face, it’s not a joke. So what’s the point of him? Hopefully he’ll get what he deserves, wish I believed in karma.

AutumnRose1 · 31/03/2020 01:58

Beetroot “ And moreover, that a lot of the men listening probably realised that. Yet again in a situation where it's men men men and me, I realised that my generous female interpretation of what was going on, was probably way off the mark.”

It’s what Germaine Greer said about women not understanding how much men hate them. I feel sorry for you working in a male dominated place.

SuckingFickOfIt · 31/03/2020 02:47

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SnowWhitesRestingBitchFace · 31/03/2020 02:48

His apology is absolute bollocks. Just a PR stunt to try and save his image.

Malin cancelled the live she was supposed to have him take part in after previously saying she needed to get answers to questions. I would have loved to know how he would have defended himself on the spot with no one there to feed him lines. He's scum.

GlitterToast · 31/03/2020 03:17

@SuckingFickOfIt

You have outed yourself with that image? I can see your thumbnail. If you report it to MN, they'll delete it for you.

SharonasCorona · 31/03/2020 08:14

Rowan Baxter, the Australian ex-Rugby player who burned his wife and kids to death in a car in Feb was defended by friends when he posted a video of himself repeatedly shoving his child’s face into a bed before the murders. Apparently he was toughening then up Hmm

Jokes about violence often reveal the abuser’s true colours.

www.google.co.uk/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/11990270

nameymcnamechangeagain · 31/03/2020 08:47

Never fear, there’s a petition to have his boxing license reinstated now because “it’s a joke” rather than banging on about the “joke” why doesn’t he acknowledge it was ill thought out and he hadn’t given a second thought to the fact that some people are living this life, getting beatings from their partners day to day, even more so during lockdown??? Fuck me. Plenty of people say things without thinking (although this was preempted) why doesn’t he just acknowledge the wrong doing rather than justifying it??? He clearly needs someone to manage his PR other than his sister

WellThisIsShit · 31/03/2020 09:40

Horrible. Wish I hadn’t seen the actual video now as it was so violent and hate filled.

On the other hand, if you’ve watched it, it’s hard to dismiss it or minimise it... or agree with the extraordinary behaviour of the women and men who are trying to pretend this level of hate is ‘fine’ and it’s our fault for not having ‘got the joke’.

There wasn’t any humour in that vile piece of insight into his brain...

SharonasCorona · 31/03/2020 09:51

On his latest Twitter apology, loads of men are joking that they’ve already knocked out/ KO’d their wife and that it was just ‘banter’.

Notredamn · 31/03/2020 11:29

Birds of a feather really do flock together. What a shower of shit!

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