'Stay local to exercise' is rubbish

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Taking public transport to start your exercise is obviously counterproductive.

Driving to somewhere where loads of other people are also going to exercise is not exactly ideal.

Driving to somewhere in the middle of nowhere to go for a walk? Not only is that perfectly safe, I'm going to assert that it's BETTER than walking from your house, especially if you live in a built-up area.

AIBU? And if I'm being U - why? How am I endangering anyone by going out to the countryside by car instead of walking round my town?

Angry?,yes,I am,it angers me to see people not giving a shit as they think they are invincible and couldn't care less about how their actions could possibly affect others.Its such a simple request to not go out unless absolutely necessary yet people just can't seem to manage it.Ive been out to work only (I am a key worker on the front line) and I have shopped once.When my son has chemo I wait in the car for 4 hours as I don't want to put any other cancer patients at risk,apart from those occasions I haven't left the house.My son has been given a year to live so to have him taken even sooner just because of other people's urge to go out and exercise and out others at risk angers me immensely.I apologise if you feel I have taken my anger out on you,it wasn't my intention.

Why do you all think you know better than the Government? Did any of you see BBC News tonight? see what’s going on in Italy right now? They’re 20days into complete lockdown, and they’re losing their shit! You think that won’t happen here? ‘Not exercising never killed anyone’... tell that to the Italians. If the Government deem it okay at this time, then it’s okay. It’s safe if people take responsibility, just like those of us still working have to, and everyone who goes shopping. Farmers, do the same. Wear gloves, use hand gel and bleach spray. Everyone else still working has to. We have footpaths crossing our land, I’m taking precautions on surfaces open go the public, such as stiles and gates. Conjoining up obscure possibilities of regret for those driving a short distance to exercise is idiotic.

Stay home. Your dogs are not more important than human lives FFS

The trouble is , people think that the rules don’t apply to them. It’s someone else that causes the problem.

I am driving to old riding haunts, within 5 miles of home, where I encounter just a few people. My usual walking routes in parks are rammed. Am urban-based.

In Ireland the rule is no more than 2 km from your home. Think Boris needs to set a distance limit for leaving your home. At the moment too many are finding excuses as to why they should be able to go to parks, woods etc which are not nearby.

Just follow Government guidelines,not what some curtain twitcher on MN says.

Latest advice is you can go out once a day for exercise or walk a dog....oh and you CAN drive,contrary to what is being said on here.

Shop for essentials as infrequently as possible.

Just follow Government guidelines,not what some curtain twitcher on MN says

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What is matter with people? They just don't get it. Can't keep their distance and think it's a joke if I say "6 feet" when walking, near my home on my permitted daily exercise, Everyone must do their bit and not travel unneccesarily especially in their cars. It's only going to get worse and we may not then be going out at all except for food.
Please people be serious to help avoid the spread.
Also it has been shown that handwashing with soap is more thorough than anti bac gel.
Take a look at Italy for some vision of what could happen here if we all don't start taking care and thinking the rules don't apply to us, every single one, no exceptions.
Please be sensible and stay safe.

There is law, and that's what the Police should be acting on. And then there is everything else - guidance, advice etc.

Government have made the legislation actually fairly loose, as they don't want to be too authoritarian; the no 10 Nudgers probably knew that inter-community pressure, threats and shaming would be sufficient to get the desired result.

Looks like a Spanish princess is the first royal to die from cv. She was old yes, but you'd think they would have some of the best healthcare going.

So yeah keep going out. I'm sure it will work out so well for you.

I live in town centre. I can drive for less than 5 minutes and be in open deserted countryside. I know what I feel would be safer right now

Take a look at Italy for some vision of what could happen here if we all don't start taking care and thinking the rules don't apply to us, every single one, no exceptions

When you say 'Take a look at Italy' do you mean in terms of the death toll from the virus? Because tragically it is already too late to stop that happening here. We had a crucial 2-3 weeks grace period and the government squandered it. Now we will all have to suffer and grieve.

On the other hand, if you mean the unrest building in Italy - that is a prime example of what happens when you crack down on people too hard. Italians have had to withstand 3 weeks of lockdown and now people are running out of food and becoming unstable from being shut in. So in fact it is a good argument for allowing people to continue to access remoter places, protecting their mental and physical health.

Basically a good rule but a lot of overreaction from police. Unnecessary to close some places, you might as well close every big space !
My brother and wife live in London. They go out walking at night and don't meet many people.
We are on the edge of a village. My son and I had to walk in the middle of the main road to avoid people. 4 groups of them all 6 ft plus apart on the only path. Amicably met a couple on the side road and passed them in the car passing place, it's a single carriage way. Then we almost ended in a ditch because one rather aggressive looking chap was in the middle of it.
Earlier at the beginning of the week we drove 10 minutes in the car to get to an enormous field, walked around it for an hour met 3 lots of people. Drove home past a parking area which was overflowing with parked cars out onto the road. Glad we did not go there.
It can be done. I always wear gloves, leave in the hall when we get back and wash hands. Always practice social distancing.

And if you have a car accident?

Sorry, my first thought when I read this post is precisely what others have said too. Just imagine for a second that you have the misfortune of a breakdown or worse, an accident involving another vehicle?? . What if you simply trip and fall, spraining your ankle? You'll phone for help, those who attend will be at risk if you happen to be harbouring the virus.( Or vice versa) Those people (or you) could then potentially go home and end up infecting their families. Why can't people just take a second to think through the possible consequences of their actions? This is really happening, it's not some OTT movie plot!!!
And anyway, would you really want that on your conscience? Just remember, all those who have the virus and sadly those who have lost their lives, had no clue that they had picked it up and evidently, without realising, they have now passed it on. Can't people understand the basic logic of staying home and cutting out a huge element of risk. Bugger your beauty spot, you'll see it sometime soon. Meanwhile do your bit to slow this bloody virus down, and give the NHS a fighting chance to save those critically ill, they need their help and we may too. Stay the fuck home and protect yourself and everyone else. God, so friggin simple..

Has the legislation received royal assent yet? Just wondering as it's not law yet if not.

Can't people understand the basic logic of staying home and cutting out a huge element of risk.

The vast majority of people have not been told to never leave the house. It's unrealistic to expect 66m to stay indoors all day, everyday. Besides plenty of people can & do have accidents in the home.

Has the legislation received royal assent yet? Just wondering as it's not law yet if

It's a statutory instrument so doesn't need royal assent

Ok stupid people listen up - you are part of a population, it's not about individual choice anymore. When the population STAYS AT HOME, fewer accidents happen. How have you not caught on yet to the fact that there will be no NHS services available in the coming hours, days if your lucky. Your stupidity is in fact lethal, unfortunately probably more for some other intelligent Dr or nurse. Exponential growth - cases are doubling every 3 days, DEATHS doubling every two days. It's not a difficult mathematical puzzle. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH ICU BEDS.

The legislation is her e- I have a print out of the relevant part in my handbag with my business card in a plastic folder in case I am stopped by the police - www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/contents/made There are an awful lots of ways you are allowed out.

On the driving to exercise point in regulation 6(1)(b) it says you can leave the house to take exercise. In my view driving 2 hours to the middle of Exmoor to take a hike might be stretching that a bit but do think driving 10 minutes to the place where you usually let the dog loose is probably okay under that law. The problem for us is we live at perfect place locally to have a walk on the quiet private road open to hte public and with wood. The woods which are often my sons' private play ground with not a single person in are now chocabloc as local residents in this dormitory suburb of London cannot go to their usual health clubs, golf places, places in London and all the rest. Luckily the twins have found a way into an almost impenetrable centre of the woods away from all paths. Only a dog got close to them yesterday.

There is also a Coronavirus Act which has received royal assent but these rules about not going out are not contained in that - they are in the regs I link to above. There were also separate regs made in February but that was more general than the March regs I link to which contain our current detail. The March regs also deal with who can go to work - basically anyone unless you could work from home (most jobs you cannot work from home) or unless on the banned list - restaurants etc.

Exponential growth - cases are doubling every 3 days, DEATHS doubling every two days. It's not a difficult mathematical puzzle.

This is not true. We have no idea about the rate of infection because we are not doing population testing.

The virus does not follow exponential growth, but a Gompertz function (sometimes a logistic function). The idea of doubling every few days is simplistic.

It is in fact a difficult mathematical puzzle.

YANBU OP I completely agree.

Ok stupid people listen up - you are part of a population, it's not about individual choice anymore. When the population STAYS AT HOME, fewer accidents happen

According to ROSPA

Every year there are approximately 6,000 deaths as the result of a home accident

RTAs account for around 1.7-1.8k deaths a yr.