To be so peeved with MIL attitude to ‘stay home’

[Ohmaidaiz]

I’m sure I’m not the first or last thread of this nature!
MIL defies the stay at home/no social interaction rules, continues to see her sister who lives in same village everyday!
Now I completely understand it’s hard for them both (both live alone) but ffs, they are carrying on like they’re exempt from the rules! MIL has her sister over for a cuppa and they’re both interacting with others in the village.
What really grinds is the fact that, on the whole, it’s the elderly who will suffer if they contract coronavirus. So the truth is largely, we are all staying home and not seeing our friends and family in person to save the elderly. (Yes I know that young people and those without existing health conditions die from it too but on the whole it is the elderly who are suffering the most) and then there’s quite a few of the elderly flouting these rules even though they’re put in place to give the NHS a fighting chance of saving their lives when they contract corona. Just infuriates me!!

@Bunbunbunny that’s awful and heartbreaking. I’m really sorry to hear that.

Can your mother in law and her sister move in together? I guess then one of them would be left feeling like they’re missing their own home though 🤔

This thread is making me very sad, I'm 68 and trying to self isolate, but I have had to go to the shops because despite having a regular online slot with ASDA I can't get a delivery! I'm running out of milk etc.
I'm appalled that should I get sick that I won't get a ventilator due to my age as my life is worth less than the teenagers I saw outside yesterday mucking about etc, in groups.

I have been isolated now for 10 days and will stay in. The only people I have seen outside are my neighbour next door - a key worker in a school and 2 who work in the food industry. Apart from the idiot lads across the road who go out in cars several times a day and night. The first day of do not visit anyone their girlfriends were dropped off by their parents. they then went home later.

@KenDodd there is still the issue of her getting it and spreading it to others. That’s the main reason we’re in lockdown. The rules have to apply to everyone for it to work - really hacks me off people thinking they’re special cases because they’re old or whatever.

@HazelBite this is not the argument people are making on this thread. The proposal is that People (be they older, younger whatever) should be refused medical treatment if they have flagrantly flouted the clear rules that have been laid down for them. Not because anyone in any demographic’s “life is worth less” than anyone else’s.

Another major issue is that if they catch the virus, being elderly they probably won't have priority for treatment because there's younger people with a better chance of recovery... I can't believe they don't get that.

This is a difficult issue.

I have every, every sympathy with elderly people who struggle to change their routine, and who would be very lonely without daily interactions.

But children have been taken out of schools and nursery. Exams cancelled. Teenagers can't see their friends, indefinitely. Playgrounds closed. Children literally being mandated to stay indoors 23 hours a day. Many thousands of people losing their livelihoods. The economy destroyed.

To see older people, who we are being told this is all FOR swanning about and popping out is very hard and sticks in the throat. It is fucking selfish. If children are expected to suffer this, and I'm not sure they should be for any prolonged period of time, they can too.

It's reasonable for the very old to want to die quickly, my grandmother died of vascular dementia, and my uncle is in a care home now with it. That's a horrible fate. But my father died after having a stroke and pneumonia for a week - he died an awful death though he was sedated. I imagine it was a bit like a death from C19. Not only is it a terrible end (lungs slowly failing), but with C19 you are putting all the hospital staff at risk.

I believe very much in euthanasia and being able to sign a legal document in earlier life saying that if you are mentally or physically completely incapacitated, then you want a lethal dose of anaesthetic, morphine, barbiturate, etc to die a peaceful death. It should be possible, with health and legal safeguards.

People are allowed out in their own gardens. They just shouldn't get within 2 metres of neighbours/passers by. I'm hoping for fine weather so I can get my tip of a garden tidied up. I'm in my early 50s but I'm sure to some posters that's virtually decrepit.

Apart from one shopping trip I haven't been beyond my front gate since last Friday, not even a proper dog walk, just playing in the house/garden.

@saraclara he is over 70 living with my almost 70 year old Mother who has health issues and him going to the local Co-op everyday to buy his paper and bits and pieces is not essential, they should both be self isolating and not leaving the house due to my Mothers health, but he is a selfish arse, he can read his newspaper online, plus he doesn't wash his hands, takes no precautions and doesn't respect the personal space thing either, the Police have powers to stop and fine people who are out and about without good reason and I think he falls into this category and he is such a tight stingy got getting a fine would be about the only thing that will keep him indoors. I haven't and won't report him, but it is a horrible thing to have to sit and worry that my Dad might bring home a virus that will kill my Mum just because he wants his daily paper. I have offered to shop for them, but apparently they like to choose their own stuff together and no one is going to stop that.

Today 08:12Mummyoflittledragon

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Is that groups of people walking together as a group or individuals? Over 70’s are allowed out, you know

I've been under the impression that over 70s have been asked to self isolate for twelve weeks. So what does it mean to be "allowed out" when they've been asked to stay at home for twelve weeks for their own protection?

Can they not move in together and get stuff delivered?

I just wonder if the media play a part in this. Many older people read a right-wing press, which tends to be more covid-sceptica. I am particularly thinking of this week's Mail on Sunday where Peter Hitchens said the virus was a media panic, and another article appeared saying that 50% may have already had the virus and be immune. If you were elderly you might take comfort in that but it might also make you a bit irresponsible.

I spoke to my Gran earlier, she’s been to Morrison’s today! She’s 90 and apparently doesn’t want a ventilator anyway.

My Mum (60) is going to visit my Gran tomorrow, I have told them both I am angry, why should they expect Paramedics to come and help them at home and none of it is essential. My Mum works in a supermarket too ! 🙄

I have told them til I am blue in the face that it’s not about them if they think they’re immune, it’s about everyone having to deal with them.

I have been too worried to take my children out since earlier this week because people won’t keep enough distance, annoyed !

I’m properly self isolating and I can see older people in the street stopping for a chat in groups not bothering about staying 2 m apart, never seen as many dogs being walked!
I get the loneliness argument but these people could well be ‘spreaders’ whatever their age, and its sheer selfishness to keep going out every day.

My neighbours both over 70 are completely ignoring the advice. They returned from their holiday home Sunday, have been out in their car numerous times, were chatting to relatives ignoring social distancing advice and have now gone away again. They are showing a blatant disregard for all of us who are staying at home and trying to help other elderly and vulnerable neighbours and complete disrespect for the Nhs staff who are under so much pressure in their efforts to save lives whilst putting their own at risk.

They're running around like there's no tomorrow here, nipping into wee shops to buy a bloody newspaper.

I’ve suggested her and her sister temporarily live together but apparently it was a ridiculous suggestion eye roll I’ve tried many times in the past to get her to learn how to use Skype (hell, even just switch a device on to press answer) but she refuses. Meanwhile a 92 year old in the same village has learnt to use Skype to keep in touch while she is staying inside so why can’t 74 y/o MIL!! And yes yes to the argument given “want to go get my paper” I understand totally but everyone’s routines have been disrupted and it’s hopefully short term pain for long term gain (hopefully). DH has given her strict instructions not to go out and to forget her paper. I’ve even suggested to him that we get her a cheapish tablet and load it with the newspaper apps she would want and Skype and wipe down and leave in her doorstep and he says she just wouldn’t bother using it. Yet she has the most complicated TV set up I’ve ever seen (has a bt tv package with a you view box) DH and I can never figure it out but she understand sit 100%, I really really wish she had bothered to learn a little bit of computer know how just for things like this

Oh well, we will just have harder longer lockdowns thanks to people like them.

@saraclara it’s not ageism it’s the truth. I agree 100% people of all ages are disregarding the rules but no one can ignore the fact that on the whole, it is the older generations who will die should they contract coronavirus. Besides which if I had a young family member flouting the rules I’d be just as pee’d off! This post however is about MIL.

Yes I can see why you are annoyed. It's all this 'nipping out' and 'doing no harm' stuff that could lead to hundreds of new cases. One person infects another 3 on average, and so on!

I've been under the impression that over 70s have been asked to self isolate for twelve weeks. So what does it mean to be "allowed out" when they've been asked to stay at home for twelve weeks for their own protection?

They haven't. It was suggested but never put through as they wanted everyone to stay at home. That's why 'the elderly' are allowed to shop at specific times. They can go out.