Texas to ban abortions due to COVID:19

[Crunchymum]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/52012243

I am utterly aghast that this outbreak is now further taking away the rights of women.

It is being used to push a misogynistic agenda.

AIBU to find this disgusting?

That makes me so sad.

I’m expecting other states to jump on the bandwagon too

Don't be ridiculous pussy.

Easily abortions do not need a 'theatre'.

You haven't even bothered reading the article have you. It makes this point.

Fucking people wanting to make women's and girls (yes girls get pregnant too) more difficult at this time. Pregnancy will put them in a high risk group. Pregnancy and childbirth will be much more dangerous with far less medical facilities available. Victims of rape including girls will be forced to give birth. There has been suggestions that as well as DV increasing so will child abuse Inc CSA.

Yes it's to protect them obviously

Of course they hate women. Think about what you're saying.

Early not easily

formerbabe unfortunately that is not the case.

Quote from BPAS-

“Yesterday in the House of Commons, the Health Secretary Matt Hancock MP stated that there are no proposals to amend the abortion regulations to enable telemedicine for early abortion, as recommended by experts to ensure women can safely access services – despite the fact his Department had issued guidance the previous day, and then retracted it.”

You can use this online form to email your MP about it.

Oh someone blocked it?

Would be good to know who.

www.mariestopes.org.uk/news/coronavirus-covid-19-statement-1/

Both Marie Stopes and BPAS are still managing to provide abortions, they have dedicated clinics so no diagnosed CV19 patients on the premises and anyone with symptoms or who has been exposed has to reschedule.

An early abortion does not require theatre and can be completed using medications, these can also be used later on if need be and are the same medications used in medical management of a missed miscarriage. I have taken these at four months as the clinical decision was that medication carried a lower risk than surgery. The government has already discussed allowing early abortions to take place at home rather than in the clinic and it is classed as an essential medical treatment.

All non emergany operations have been cancelled, unless your life is medically endangered by continuing the pregnany then sorry but why should a women who has become pregant have special dispensation ? Cancer patientss are having to go without treatment so why should abortions go ahead ?

I doubt it’s specifically to ruin the lives of women by taking back control

Ever lived in Texas Pussywillow? I lived in Oklahoma (next state up) and this is absolutely why they are doing it. Everyone knows that banning abortion doesn’t stop it happening. It just drives it underground, making it much more dangerous. Desperate women will do desperate things, but the Governor and Attorney General involved don’t give a crap. They only care about how this will play with their Republican, Bible Belt electorate.

Pro-life until the baby appears and then no one gives a fuck. It’s not their problem once an actual human exists

I think pro-life groups actually do provide a lot of assistance.

To be clear, I’m pro-choice but there are tons of charities out there supporting this POV. If you are talking government policy though, the two contradictory impulses for sure go together.

unless your life is medically endangered by continuing the pregnancy then sorry but why should a woman who has become pregnant have special dispensation

fixed your SPAG for you

Have you not seen that pregnant women are on the high risk list? I can’t think of a worse time to become pregnant than now. And it costs the NHS far less in terms of time and resources to provide an early abortion that it does to provide antenatal care and midwifery services to a woman who remains pregnant and gives birth. There is absolutely no good reason why women should have to have the permission of two doctors to do what basically amounts to taking some tablets. Now is the time to end this lunacy, not use it as another stick to beat women with.

I have taken these at four months as the clinical decision was that medication carried a lower risk than surgery

I thought the cutoff was 12 weeks for a medical termination? That’s interesting.

However, surgery is still less risky than a medical termination for most.

why should a women who has become pregant have special dispensation

Abortion has been classified as an essential medical procedure because

• pregnancy and childbirth are not a punishment for having sex
• pregnancy carries risks to physical and mental health
• some pregnancies are ended for medical reasons and this should not be delayed
• bodily autonomy has not been cancelled

Abortion clinics are often self-contained clinics with their own staff and premises, they're not taking staff away from other wards and clinics.

formerbabe unfortunately that is not the case

I'm sure I read online that women would now be able to take both sets of pills at home now?

I thought the cutoff was 12 weeks for a medical termination? That’s interesting

I was told that the cut off for the Trust where I was treated was 13wks and after 13wks their first-line treatment is medical management/inducement and surgery is the fall back position in case of emergency or failure.

I'm sure I read online that women would now be able to take both sets of pills at home now?

It was withdrawn shortly after it was published but I expect it will make a reappearance soon.

The closed minded fuckery of some Pele astounds me.

It's way more expensive to provide ante natal and birth care than an abortion.

Given that many in USA don't have health insurance and services are going to be very pushed, this will result in women and girls dying. Plenty of those women will have children already who will lose a mother, bad enough at the best of times but what happens to the kids now in the middle of this.

This is the special treatment PP is keen to see women in Texas subject to.

The USA has the highest maternal mortality rate in the 'West', miles higher than other countries of similar wealth.

Rub your hands with glee lowland and watch those bitches get what they deserve.

This is awful, a woman should always have a choice up to a certain point ie 12 weeks or 24 weeks for abnormalities . Covid is particularly the worst time to have an unwanted pregnancy and be stuck in such an awful situation. I really feel for these women.

Truly vile.

This isn't about COVID:19 or anything really,

it's about controlling women's bodies.

So you’re only allowed an opinion if you’re pro abortion?

If you’ve got a mother, yes.

I agree it’s out of order but I wonder if it’s more because it’s technically bringing a (likely) healthy pregnant woman into theatre where there could be complications or risk of infection but not enough staff or medical resources to meet the demand?

That doesn't apply to specialist clinics and the use of chemical abortions.

That poster hasn't bothered to read the article.

@BeetrootRocks

Apologies - thread title was a little misleading!

Should be Texas trying to ban abortions due to COVID:19

I'll ask MNHQ to change!

Hopefully the generous American welfare state will be forking out for these babies to be brought up until the age of 18.

it's absolutely fine to force women to have unwanted babies isn't it, they have such a great safety net in the USA everyone is looked after no one is homeless or lacking healthcare
Sarcasm obviously, can we even still consider the USA to be a first world country?