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Aibu to think private school provision at home can be done in state schools too?

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Namechangedforthisreply7 · 24/03/2020 23:14

Just that. Private schools are doing active live teaching via zoom, FaceTime and Skype. Full school days. Teaching via video link, then sending kids off to do work which they send back and gets marked, then another lesson. full school days of work. Even pe online! Parents don’t need to do anything and can get on with work.

State sector get home learning packs. No info about how to do bus stop division or similar technical stuff. Not heard from anyone at school since Friday, no information at all bar work timetable on website. Where are the teachers? Why are can state sector teachers not actively teach online and stay in touch with the kids? Why not more engagement? We are all having to work at home alongside our kids, why aren’t teachers doing this too?

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niffynoonoo · 27/03/2020 08:19

Oh 1 more thing....online school don`t sit the kids at lessons (they are 1 hr each) ALL DAY!! ds has 3 a day at most. the PE is do your own thing! we do have more homework (independant learning) though. Encouraged to research outside the class etc, use a "discussion board" via powerschool etc to share ideas etc. Mainstream/ state doesnt have all these tools!!!

FlossyChick · 27/03/2020 08:24

Another aspect to this pandemic is that colleagues are now becoming unwell- in some schools in large numbers. So other teachers are stepping in and preparing the work for sick teachers -and sending that out too. Please try to think about the actual human beings behind this situation. It’s not always possible to keep working with bad Covid symptoms- let alone Zoom!!!

imation · 27/03/2020 08:26

Our private school does nothing for year 11 apart from sending some encouraging emails ie keep revising

EstoPerpetua · 27/03/2020 08:47

Feeling a bit emotional as DC1's school has just had a virtual end of term chapel service. They are just brilliant. Every single member of staff (teachers, cleaners, security Spaniels - the whole lot) ought to be given a medal. And they're doing all this while opening up the real, physical school to local children of key workers...

niffynoonoo · 27/03/2020 08:54

thats really good @EstoPerpetua

KisstheTeapot14 · 27/03/2020 09:23

This is a bit harsh I feel.

Our teachers are doing their best. We had lots of work sent home plus online maths, typing/spelling etc. There are unprecedented times and I feel school have gone out of their way to be supportive with class email address to questions and lovely text message from teacher. Its a learning curve for us all, and maybe state will come on board with more zoom style teaching - if they can ensure equality of access by making sure all kids have laptop.

People assume a lot. Our special needs teacher looked gobsmacked when we said we had no tablet at home. We may not 'look' or 'speak' like we are poor (not being judgemental, but you understand the stereotype, right?) but we really have to think about what our limited income is spent on.

EastCoastDamsel · 27/03/2020 10:07

Private schools are remaining open for the children of key workers - or at least ours is.

marcusian · 27/03/2020 11:00

Read the comments carefully Namechangedforthisreply7 - entitled shit says it all - spot on EvilTwins lol

FlossyChick · 27/03/2020 12:46

This is a bad situation-if some good things can come out of it perhaps they will be that we gain an understanding of how other people live and look outside our own bubble.
Many people spend their time and careers helping others who are in need or less fortunate, often in less than ideal circumstances. From your post you appear very fortunate, this may have come through sheer hard work, luck, inheritance, marriage, skill, aptitude, opportunity or a combination of things and I hope that you ‘give back’ in some way Namechangedforthisreply7
I’m sure you do?
Not everyone is as fortunate as you and often this is not actually their fault.
Altruism not Criticism at this difficult time please.

Coulddowithanap · 27/03/2020 12:53

My dd's state secondary school is excellent. The children and teachers log into google classroom for the lessons that they would normally be doing at that time, teacher sets work and they children can ask questions.

Primary is slightly different but we've been given a selection of work to do on a grid and we can tick off when it's done. Also all the children have been given an email address and the teacher will email out something each day.

FlossyChick · 27/03/2020 12:56

What is happening to the world right now will hopefully show that the separate social, geographical, and ideological bubbles we think we live in are not so separate after all. Rows of detached houses are suddenly not so detached. Gated communities are not so gated- we all need each other. Take this opportunity to understand.

suzy2b · 27/03/2020 13:11

My granddaughters have had nothing from school 11 yr refusing to do anything 5yr loves doing the maths we have found online

MurielPritchett · 27/03/2020 13:19

In mys school, staff are currently (approximate figures)

35% in the school building looking after the children of key workers. We've split our children into small groups of 6 You'd be surprised how many staff it takes to look after just a small group to make sure that they effectively distance from each other, that the tables and chairs are disinfected after each lesson, that children are occupied with interesting things that don't involve any contact or touching something that some one else had touched- no football/other team games, no shared model building etc. Whilst at the same time ensuring the children are having fun and not too frightened/unnerved by the very strange situation they now find themselves in
We're working a shift system so that we can continue to offer before/after school club for those key workers who might have previously relied upon grandparents to do that role. We've also ensure high staff:pupil ratios so that if staff go off sick, we can still open to key workers.

35% are off on "holiday" this week- we're intending to open over Easter - including Good Friday and Easter Monday- to ensure that our health worker staff can still get to work. We know that many of them will have been relying upon grandparents to look after children in the holidays, so we will be there for them instead. If staff are going to cover over the holiday- then they need a break now

15% either sick or self-isolating due to family members with symptoms

15% at home due underlying medical conditions- they are the ones keeping home learning going. They are liaising with the staff in school to upload tasks to be completed at home onto our school website.

Remember, the national curriculum has been suspended for a reason.

If we are to fulfill our current primary role of caring for the children of key workers, and keep ourselves well enough to continue doing this for a sustained period, there isn't the capacity to do any video-link teaching. Some days, there isn't even the capacity to up date the website! And things are only going to get more challenging

As an aside, as I've been typing this reply- in my lunch break- a staff member who has been in at 7:00 am each day to do Breakfast club has just left the building for their week of "holiday". As they left, they called by my office to say that I mustn't forget that if I needed them next week, they'd come in. That's what workers in state schools are doing! Angry

MurielPritchett · 27/03/2020 13:21

Oh, and the other thing that is happening is that vulnerable families (children and their parents) are being called every other day to check on their well being and being provided with food parcels where necessary

KisstheTeapot14 · 27/03/2020 15:10

Muriel, thanks for that insight into how schools are working. I knew a bit as my sister is working still (school secretary) but just goes to show that there is a lot of hard work going on behind the scenes to keep kids/families safe and look out for those not at school but vulnerable all the same.

For anyone who feels they haven't had enough materials from school - you can ask them or Twinkl have a free offer for 1 month - materials for every age/subject from religion to PE and stuff for kids with e.g. dyslexia. Work sheets to print if you have the facility to do so. Or just take time to do more practical stuff like gardening/cooking/playing board games or just sharing a book if and when you can. I know its tricky with home working.

School run website has useful articles too. Am sure education forums here have ideas too. On Facebook local teachers have posted to contact them if we get stuck. We all have to be a bit creative in how we tackle things currently and its no bad thing!

Italiandreams · 27/03/2020 15:30

The problem this thread is highlighting is that some people have a complete inability to see that not everyone else’s situation is exactly the same as theirs! There is just no point in telling people that their child’s teacher might the too ill to teach, or looking after the children in school or their own family because they just can’t understand why they are not at their beck and call. Teachers are people . If your school has provided nothing, that isn’t good enough and you should take it up with them but some of the demands on here are completely unattainable for a lot of schools .

ChloeDecker · 27/03/2020 16:10

A very interesting read for anyone questioning why schools might be hesitant to last minute signing up to Zoom, due to security concerns OP

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52033217

noblegiraffe · 27/03/2020 16:19

Given how mad we all were about GDPR up till a few weeks ago, I hope that parents are being cautious about signing their kids up to approved educational websites only.

Sparklebox should be enough to give pause for thought.

ThreeImaginaryBoys · 27/03/2020 16:20

@murielpritchett thanks for that insight and thanks for what you are doing.

whitetoblerone · 27/03/2020 16:23

You're forgetting that many teachers also have children at home. My DC is under 2 and needs constant attention at home. I am working all hours of the day to provide decent work for my students across 2 subjects. Zoom would not work for me as I couldn't teach and have my DC too.

Please don't suggest teachers have disappeared and are on holiday. I am constantly emailing students to help them, marking work, checking coursework, planning lessons to make sure every child has a decent remote learning education. State schools are doing everything they can for students.

Smurfy23 · 27/03/2020 16:30

Db works in a private school. They were told they needed to make the work bloody amazing or else parents would leave and they would lose their jobs. He was going into school after closure to make sure he was making them as good as possible as the tech in school is better. Shame he was risking his life.

In contrast at my state school there are kids who dont have smart phones or wifi connections. Some are technically homeless and sleeping on the sofa of a friends house so I could zoom away as much as I liked, they wouldnt be able to access it.

In the meantime, whilst I set work, mark work and respond to feedback I am also looking after my two children here as would rather keep them safe and healthy.

Get off your high horse OP. Cant believe youve genuinely just asked why a provision that people pay thousands for is better than one that has been hugelh underfunded for years. Seriously.

Smurfy23 · 27/03/2020 16:35

And any work that I provide for my students is done on the laptop that I had to buy for myself.

spanieleyes · 27/03/2020 16:45

I've had a message from a parent today apologising that they haven't done as much of the set work as they wanted to but they're currently living in a caravan and don't have much by the way of internet access, electricity or space!

Bringringbring12 · 27/03/2020 17:22

* Db works in a private school. They were told they needed to make the work bloody amazing or else parents would leave and they would lose their jobs. *

Your DB is hugely exaggerating I suspect

Didkdt · 27/03/2020 18:02

I think the overwhelming majority of teachers are doing all that they can.
DS school are doing loads to boost emotional well being and be academically supportive I know we appreciate that very much