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Aibu to think private school provision at home can be done in state schools too?

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Namechangedforthisreply7 · 24/03/2020 23:14

Just that. Private schools are doing active live teaching via zoom, FaceTime and Skype. Full school days. Teaching via video link, then sending kids off to do work which they send back and gets marked, then another lesson. full school days of work. Even pe online! Parents don’t need to do anything and can get on with work.

State sector get home learning packs. No info about how to do bus stop division or similar technical stuff. Not heard from anyone at school since Friday, no information at all bar work timetable on website. Where are the teachers? Why are can state sector teachers not actively teach online and stay in touch with the kids? Why not more engagement? We are all having to work at home alongside our kids, why aren’t teachers doing this too?

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EmpressoftheMundane · 26/03/2020 17:53

I have children in two different private schools. One school is maintaining a timetable and keeping the kids accountable. The other is completely passive. Just assigning a few worksheets. No checking in with kids in real time.
It may be a School by school thing, not a sector thing.

riceuten · 26/03/2020 17:57

What could possibly be the difference between a well resourced, highly motivated sector, with well paid staff and the starved state sector? Another utterly pathetic teacher bashing thread.

MissBelle83 · 26/03/2020 17:59

There are a number of reasons. Mainly it is because state education in this country has officially stopped because we are in the middle of a PANDEMIC.

There are also many private schools not delivering online lessons all day as described.

Also consider that a large number of children do not have access to their own device they can use all day (or at all).

Employers should recognise that people working from home are likely to also be juggling childcare and adjust their expectations accordingly. It is not the schools job to keep your children entertained while you sit on your laptop a few metres away.

Wooliesgal · 26/03/2020 18:01

Private schools would be swamped with demands of refunds if they didn't provide the lessons and education expected...

noblegiraffe · 26/03/2020 18:02

I would love my sons school to give proper online lessons. He has an EHCP

But school is open for your child! You can send him in.

Madamum18 · 26/03/2020 18:06

Um ...has anyone noticed that state schools are remaining open for children of key workers ...so teachers are there teaching them!!! This just might explain a lack of time to deliver on line lessons to those at home!!!!!!

mrsrizza · 26/03/2020 18:07

I started reading the first post and some of the responses and got really very cross about it all!
I have to say you get what you pay for in this country, private schools are very different businesses to state schools. We are teaching from home and from schools looking after vulnerable and key worker children - we are tired and worried about our school families and keeping in regular contact with those that we can engage with...which by the way is not all, some we have seen and heard nothing from. We are working on ways to support our colleagues by providing support as subject leaders. We are open over Easter and possibly soon over weekends too. I'm sorry you are finding it so hard to support your own child, maybe you could manage to engage with your child's school and teacher and explain your issues. Thanks for the support by the way. JESUS - GET A GRIP!
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MadMadaMim · 26/03/2020 18:07

Private school fees means that most parents would expect full ongoing support - they've paid for it.

EastCoastDamsel · 26/03/2020 18:12

My children are in independent schools (Primary age) and they ARE not being actively taught at this stage. Home learning packs and daily pestering emails.

They also do not have a laptop each and neither could we afford these for them. They have to share mine.

The school is working on something more interactive for next term, they have to otherwise they couldn't justify the fees they are about to ask for.

MadMadaMim · 26/03/2020 18:13

Think it also depends on the school. DD is Yr 11 so, technically, nothing to do between now and September.

We've had daily emails from head of tutor group, head of house, head and deputy head. Ongoing stuff posted on Google classroom, welfare staff email to all pupils, they're working with colleges and 6th forms to out in place transition work for A levels.

DD has additional support (not SEN) and this is available during the lockdown too, with initial direct email to check in after the announcements and abrupt end to school.life forever.

I have to say - they've been brilliant and we're super impressed and grateful

Goldiloz · 26/03/2020 18:15

Teachers are at home, homeschooling their own kids if they are not in school looking after key workers children.
And then, after schooling their own kids, doing marking of all the online work that they have set during the day. Or setting the next stage of work.
And answering emails all day from parents stressed about GCSE and A-Level cancellations. And phoning all the vulnerable and FSM students to check they are all ok.

Lollygaggles · 26/03/2020 18:15

DS's independent school is certainly not doing anything so fancy. We've been given a stack of text books and a good luck message.

mummytraveller · 26/03/2020 18:27

Year 2 here and teacher is updating daily with homework and activities to do.. dont have to do it on the day it's set but have to have it done by the time school goes back

Toomuchtrouble4me · 26/03/2020 18:29

Mine are at private school - lessons via Firefly - server is down every day but they do have to be up and register every day at 8pm and follow timetable of emailed tasks - But it's hard, I have to work and am sooo busy, I can't help them - v stressful. would rather they all did a bit of reading and wrote a poem and just lower expectations nationally really.
Lots of Nanny's aren't working unless live in - would rather mine just play.

NoHunsHereHun · 26/03/2020 18:37

My friend works in a private school and their assigned work is laughable. The school doesn’t even have a laptop per teacher. It absolutely depends on the school, not the sector.

spanieleyes · 26/03/2020 18:41

Here is the reality of online teaching!

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=258&v=BSxM6_zEw2k&feature=emb_title

lamppostdog · 26/03/2020 18:42

I've already posted that !  @spanieleyes

Ohbobbies · 26/03/2020 18:42

State schools teachers are putting their on health on the line providing childcare for key workers etc at the moment - they cannot be expected to also run online sessions for their usual classes. Private schools are able to do this, as they don't have the added responsibilities being asked of them!!!

FlossyChick · 26/03/2020 18:42

State School Teacher here... I am working constantly -full days and all weekend- using two online programs to set work, work uploaded by students- then sent back when marked. Probably double the number of students of a full time private school teacher? Hours spent reassuring worried students/parents online by email and through online class links. Reading countless email about arrangements for mock exam/ongoing provision/public exams/ assessment. School Staff on a rota to provide care for key worker children. Many students have limited means and no personal laptops, they are alternating with siblings/parents. Please be careful before making HUGE assumptions based on what you can see from your limited view. How dare you.

Tunnocks34 · 26/03/2020 18:47

Jesus Christ there is even time for teacher bashing in the middle of a pandemic...

Firstly I am not, enjoying a holiday, sat on my arse doing nothing. I am in school on a time table, and the rest of the time I am available via email, and Skype to pupils who are not children of key workers, and who have access to the internet - a large portion of my pupils don’t.

When at school, I am teaching, consoling, often creating and hand delivering resources and emergency packs containing food and sanitary products to some of the most deprived children in our school.

I have also chose to keep my children off school as my youngest only has one working lung so is exceptionally vulnerable, So when working from home I am juggling three children too.

spanieleyes · 26/03/2020 18:48

Sorry, lampostdog, must have missed it!

youcantchoosethem · 26/03/2020 18:48

@noblegiraffe
As I stated in my post:-

^^For info his school have shut completely - they are not offering places there for any students. They have given the option for him to go to another school 25 miles away with some of the other EHCP students but he doesn’t know any of them going, hates change, and has physical issues including asthma so really don’t think that is an option and would mean a taxi there and back!

Also none of the same teachers, none that know his particular needs, and he has complex needs.

So yes technically could but would it right or good for him? Unfortunately no I don’t think so.

N0tJustY0ga · 26/03/2020 18:49

Try this on for size.....we pay £6/£7k per term & we still only got packs! The school then sent an invoice stating they they’re raising the fees next year too.

Not had one live class yet.....be glad you’re not paying for the privilege of teaching your own child. I do agree that state schools should be doing more.

You’ll need signed petitions and a huge push to get the state system to change. I went to a state school myself, I ended up asking the teacher for the syllabus every school year & ended up teaching myself (at secondary school that is).

threatmatrix · 26/03/2020 18:51

Is it because they will get paid regardless whereas the private teachers have to actually earn their living.

lamppostdog · 26/03/2020 18:53

@spanieleyes it's so funny (and truthful) it deserves to be on twice !

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