Aibu to think private school provision at home can be done in state schools too?

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Just that. Private schools are doing active live teaching via zoom, FaceTime and Skype. Full school days. Teaching via video link, then sending kids off to do work which they send back and gets marked, then another lesson. full school days of work. Even pe online! Parents don’t need to do anything and can get on with work.

State sector get home learning packs. No info about how to do bus stop division or similar technical stuff. Not heard from anyone at school since Friday, no information at all bar work timetable on website. Where are the teachers? Why are can state sector teachers not actively teach online and stay in touch with the kids? Why not more engagement? We are all having to work at home alongside our kids, why aren’t teachers doing this too?

That is heartbreaking tulipsrus. Getting quite teary.
Is there anyway that you and he can postpone this until either you have more time or have found him something he feels more comfortable with?
I know your school has set specific work but please understand that they will absolutely not mind if you haven’t done it and instead done something that was equally beneficial to him, both mentally and academically.
I am so sorry you have both suffered over this and I promise, every single one of your DS’s teachers, just want him happy, safe and well.
You are a too. Remember that.

Well for a start it's more than likely a family who independently educate their children have the resources for each child to have access to this type of set up.

Most children in state will have shared access and many many won't have access at all.

azaleanth90

What year group is your child in? I know I am bouncing between this thread and marking Year 13 coursework as a matter of priority to help with the upcoming grades we will have to generate for them.
I have made sure every year group has work that they can reasonably do independently for over a thousand children and I’m replaying to their emails direct to me, as soon as they pop up.
I also don’t know about your school and how many vulnerable pupils they have, that they may also be delivering free school meals to etc but it may not be as clear cut as ‘school closed’. I am sure if your children have any questions or need help, they can email too.
I’m also setting up work on more ‘formal’ lessons starting on Monday, which most other teachers are also doing because I was still in school last Friday teaching mine and my colleagues’ lessons who were self isolating, getting hundreds of school books sorted ready for children to collect and take home and making sure pupils who were in floods of tears were supported. I was also in school Monday and Tuesday supervising children who were in and having multiple meetings to discuss what to do going forward.
It’s been 2 and a half days, remember.

I teach in a state school. We have a virtual learning environment and I've set up loads of stuff on there, setting daily work with support resources, quizzes etc. It's a thing of beauty if I do say so myself and I'm very pleased with it. I'm online, logged in daily to answer any questions, respond to submitted work etc. One of my kids has logged on so far this week. One.

They don't have the tech available to access a website, let alone something like zoom. I wanted to call parents again to ask if they needed help but have been told not to by the head.

We've explained over and over why what you are suggesting/ demanding wouldn't work for everyone and you are still goading people. Ugh.

My DD and DIL are both teachers.

DD is using zoom etc, she tried it out with us when school closure looked likely. Shes also on a rota to go in to school.

DIL is my other daughters partner. She’s providing on line work to her pupils (and others who obtained log in details) she’s currently not going in as my daughter is a T1 diabetic and they had the virus in school.

Its quite hard to provide work when one is away from the class for a day let alone this situation. Not all children have the right equipment, parents who will encourage.

Some teachers/schools were in a good place to get going on
this, others less so.

Do you honestly think it is reasonable to expect a teacher to stream a live lesson online while caring for a toddler?

Trust me, teachers are still working.

I would love for our school to have done this bit for whatever reason they haven’t. There are some resources made available and the parents can follow or use them.
Our kids are learning what I teach them, and lots more of the ‘life skill’ front. It’s just the way it is. Private schools have access to more resources, and have been using a lot of online homeworking sites etc
Our kids are 8 & 10’tho so I’m not sweating it. They can read more.

Wrong thread - please ignore my last post

I don’t have WiFi at home. We don’t have a laptop or computer. We have two phones and an iPad. We also don’t have space for a comfortable chair and table for my two daughter to sit in for hours. So that’s one big reason.

Secondly, I don’t want them spending hours on schoolwork everyday. I’m using this opportunity to teach them life skills and abilities. They need to be resilient in this strange time and they aren’t going to learn that by being stuck in front of a screen learning from an online teacher.

Secondly, I don’t want them spending hours on schoolwork everyday. I’m using this opportunity to teach them life skills and abilities. They need to be resilient in this strange time and they aren’t going to learn that by being stuck in front of a screen learning from an online teacher.

Every word of this.
If you can then use this opportunity to teach life skills. Sewing on a button, planting seeds, observational drawing, cooking, how to operate the washing machine, gardening, the list is endless.

The odd few that don’t could be given one of the school iPads on loan. It really isn’t hard.

My school of 200 pupils has a total of 7 iPads. We are in a deprived area so there are going to be far more than that who don't have their own tablet/computer.

... With it! I prefer the state format of doing it your own way. They of course do not have to worry about people not paying fees though!

The problem with parents is that some of them just don’t know what it’s like in real world. It’s not their fault, some of them just have jobs and lives that put them in a cosy little bubble.

They should try becoming teachers.

If you're finding learning to set up Zoom and using all the other items so bloody easy, why don't you Google bus stop division (used to be called Long Division - the bus stop is the shape of the dividing symbol) and learn some Key Stage 2 Mathematics skills?

I'm working from home all day - with the virus. Nobody needs to be hearing me wheeze my way through the day, as it might make both adults and children feel a trifle anxious and there is no amount of entertainment value provided by the DTwatCat joining in a video chat that would change that.

To send a parent a list of their child's Google Classroom codes involves;

Log into school email on Chrome. Get email saying there is no work. Take a (not deep enough) breath. Log into intranet (connection drops twice). Log into remote access. Connection drops every 30s - 2 minutes, depending on whether the wind if blowing in the right direction. So log in again 3-10 times before I can access the child's record and their list of classes. Log into one drive. Go back to emails and find the spreadsheet of GC logins. Download and move straight into One Drive. Get One Drive Excel to work. Find child's GC email address. Go back into emails and find class codes spreadsheet. Download and move into One Drive. Switch between classes list (logging back in every time the remote access kicks me out) and GC class codes and the email server (which has timed out, so I need to log back in again), copying each code. Repeat for each class. Send email.

Child does not log into Google Classroom. If they did, using their codes, they would see that there is work posted every day for each class - with multiple resources, links, presentations and comments.

But they've told their parent that there isn't anything to do. So parent is pissed that we 'aren't doing anything'.

Oh, and whilst I'm doing this, DP is also using bandwidth to work. Our speed is shit at the best of times.

In terms of safeguarding - well, how many parents would really be happy for their teenage child to be facetiming a teacher from their bedroom? To have images of their children on a private laptop? There are plenty who would go ape if they thought their teacher was filming them in a school performance or taking photos normally - surely being able to see/screenshot 36 teenage girls in the usual sort of clothes that teenage girls like to wear outside school is not something those same parents would want in the usual course of a day?

The majority of teachers are honest and decent - but there are always the pervy ones who cross lines; they're banned from teaching and prosecuted if they're caught. But we don't have to make it easy for them to carry on unseen.

DS is at a state school and is doing exactly what your describe in your OP. Lessons in real time as per the timetable. In fact we also have a student staying with us who goes to boarding school in the UK and is waiting to fly home on Friday. Both are havingthe same input from school, lessons etc.

OP: to add to many previous posts from us teachers who are finding this really very difficult to get to grips with completely changing our way of working, this is my teaching union's guidance:

Teachers may reasonably be expected to organise and make available learning resources for children who would otherwise normally attend school

Teachers should not be expected to plan lessons to be delivered during the period of COVID-19 school closure

Teachers should not be expected to undertake marking of work of children affected by COVID-19 school closure

I can assure you that from every teaching colleague I know, past and present (plus those I communicate within my subject across the country), NO ONE is doing this. We are all doing our best in this situation. the learning curve for delivering teaching remotely is steeper than you can imagine.

Turns out only a small minority of private schools are doing online classes.

noblegiraffe most private schools closed for Easter last Friday. Ours are doing nothing now as its the holidays. They are gearing up for full online days at the beginning of the summer term.

As I said upthread DH is at a private school. Not on holidays - whatever that means at the moment! - yet and is doing sweet fanny allan. His HOF put a load of stuff on MyMaths. End of job.

Our private school doesn't break up until end of the day on 1st April. they go back on 21st April.

Ours get a month off!

Teachers cannot seem to do anything right atm. I have been accused of being unrealistic about the work I set and now I see that we are being accused of doing nothing.

Unreasonable parents have always been part of the job but really - some of you need to get a bit of a grip.

If the only safeguarding reasons are to prevent a child recording and humiliating a Teacher then that is entirely worth the risk and easily dealt with were it to come to pass

Safeguarding of our own children? Particularly the 2 year olds who are not going to sit quietly all day whilst mum or dad delivers online lessons? Not having students effectively in my home? How do you know which teachers might have escaped, say, a very abusive ex and don’t need to run the risk of having their photo on the Internet?

Maybe humiliating and degrading a teacher is something education heads would prefer to avoid? What about teacher mental health?

Everyone has internet. The odd few that don’t could be given one of the school iPads on loan. It really isn’t hard

Most people have Internet. Many people only have Internet via a mobile phone. You can give them an iPad all day long but doesn’t mean they have the means to make it work.

I would expect private schools to move online tbh as you are paying for a service . I imagine the teachers would like to have a job to return to in September.
What business is it of yours what state schools do? They weren’t good enough for your child so piss off ! None of your business .
I sincerely hope there are lots of state school teachers pottering around their gardens today . In fact I hope they work to rule - they’re paid from 8.30 - 3/4 so I hope they only work those hours . Anything else can wait including marking and planning.
And the best bit is they’ll still get paid . Hurrah ! All those years of working ridiculously long hours for mediocre wages .