To think these parents should not be able to send their kids to school

[Dubdubdubtub]

Dad works in a takeaway
Mum does not work. No disabilities
They are sending their child to school as the dad is a key worker and this has been accepted.

To think this is not on and a lot of kids will be sent to school that actually don’t need to be there

Is it @ChloeDecker
It’s a private day nursery, DD isn’t taking anyone else’s place she’s taking HER place which I pay 1k a month for and would have still paid 1k a month for if I didn’t fall into the category and she had to stay at home, even though the nursery have told us it’s up to our discretion if we pay.
They rang me and asked me to take her in. Clearly not over ran with kids who’s parents fall into the key worker category.
This lets my colleague work from home indefinitely instead of shared as she has no childcare option and she will still be paid.

It’s a private day nursery, DD isn’t taking anyone else’s place she’s taking HER place which I pay 1k a month for and would have still paid 1k a month for if I didn’t fall into the category and she had to stay at home, even though the nursery have told us it’s up to our discretion if we pay.
They rang me and asked me to take her in. Clearly not over ran with kids who’s parents fall into the key worker category.
This lets my colleague work from home indefinitely instead of shared as she has no childcare option and she will still be paid.

You can justify it all you like but the fact is, you are putting lives at risk with this decision, which isn’t for an essential reason. Just an inconvenient one.

That wasn't the cabinet office advice-they are creating their own rules.

The guidance has the number 1 criteria that if at all possible children who can be at home should be. That would include aunts, uncles, older siblings of a reasonable age caring for them. My school had parents trying to get a place despite having the non-key-worker parent already wfh. If we don't say no to some then we won't have safe staffing levels and the whole plan will collapse. Meaning that children whose parents are both hospital doctors can't be cared for, and thus hospitals will be understaffed.

My child's school is clearly stating that keyworker status only applies if its both parents or single-parent family.

The only children who should be at school next week are those where a key worker role would go unfilled if childcare wasn't available. If your colleague can do the essential bit, stay home with your child. If you DP is already wfh they should stay home with your child. If your child is old enough to be safe at home but you don't trust they will obey the "maximum x box time is 1 hour per day" rule, still keep them at home.

Schools are open as emergency childcare. If you don't absolutely need it you shouldn't be trying to access it.

On Monday office staff in the school l am a governor at are calling all employers. As are the other schools staff. We have to work out numbers.

@P1nkHeartLovesCake people need takeaways! So yes I’d say someone providing food was key really

Are you serious?! The mother is a SAHM! There IS childcare available

@ACertainSupermarket Sorry but that just isn't true

Ds has a EHCP so we've been offered childcare at school for him next term (in quarantine atm so no issue for next week). But not for his sibling. We've asked if we can decide later what would be better for his mental health vs virus risk (he's currently in a house with 3 family members with CV so with luck will be immune by then, or at least will have more info).

The head's email made clear that the school will be providing childcare only, not education.

Wow the language used here about parents leaving their children in the care they are allowed to. these are not your normal targets you are actually vilifying front line staff. Yes you will throw at me they worked on a nail bar, and one works doesn't work in front line or they are both at home but basically teacher (not all) think they are a special case amongst front line services. the way I have been treated by my sons school for having the tenacity to actually be gong to work is sickening. I have spent a life time defending teachers but this whining, I want to be at home, don't want to pass this onto my parents has it not actually occurred to you that We want to be with our children, safe at home? Mine have special needs only I am a nurse and I get to go to work and deal with this day in day out and not a hope of holiday. I have to self isolate at home from them In order to try and protect them from this so I don't even get to be mum fully even at home. So buckle up because you are letting this country down. YOU! Are key workers! Support the other ones and stop then the whole guilt tripping those of us who need to get to work. And stop with the "only one of them is a key worker and he is at home all day!" Completely forgetting that a majority of health care staff are female and the lower wage earner. In a clash between me working nights and him working days and 2 autistic children clashing preventing him from working and me from sleeping, I will be handing my notice in and I won't be alone and it's not just people with children with special needs.

@vitavita im sure everyones called their kids 'the fucking kids'

Yes, though perhaps not to their child's class teacher.

hikarati

That is very unfair and not one of the posters and/or teachers on here are ‘whining’ about healthworkers putting their children in to school in Monday. Do not forget the fact that we are still going in to work for this very reason. It is very disingenuous to turn the situation of the OP in to yours.

You don’t say why your child’s school is denying you a place on Monday. Perhaps if you told us, we might be able to give advice to help you.

Thank you for continuing to work to help keep people safe, just like teachers are.

HavenDilemma it is true in some schools though, every LA seems to be doing it a bit differently. As I posted previously, mine is only allowing children of two key workers/one single parent key worker, and they're also prioritising healthcare workers, teachers and emergency services workers before the other groups.

The school I am a governor at will have 25% of the children coming next week.

The head has sent out an email to say he will be looking through the applications next week and checking on the validity of the request. It's dangerous for everyone, including the children that have to be there that there will be so many, especially if some parents have alternatives.

My DS2 has been offered a place by his special school, however I am going to keep him at home now that DS1 has returned from Uni. I am classed as a key worker and start a new role on Monday so was worried how I would juggle it, plus DS2's anxiety and behaviour, but I realised that we will just have to manage because that is what is best .

@hikarati I'm a teacher and I don't mind one bit looking after NHS frontline workers' children.
What I do object to is all those jumping on the bandwagon, claiming they need school places when they really don't. When they can WFH. When there is a SAHP who just can't be arsed to look after their own child because quite frankly they're too lazy (kinda contradicts the purpose of them being a SAHP).
The less children we have in school, the less risk there is to all of us, including you as a front line worker. We are happy to do our civic duty. We object to people taking advantage. There are givers and takers in society and what this crisis is showing is who falls into which camp.
I sincerely thank you for what you're doing and hope you keep safe.

Some recruitment consultants will be pivotal to supply chains just now. Factories, warehouses, logistics and retail will be calling out for workers, and need them urgently.

Whilst I fully agree with the notion if you can look after your own children, you should I think it does make the assumption that one parent will have to stay at home and look after the kids all day whilst the other works.

It doesn't. There are loads of couples both wfh around childcare.

Another teacher who is more than happy to look after genuine, essential key workers kids so they can help fight this virus. But those who say 'I work in data, I cant work from home with two kids around, I'm on the list, I'm sending them in' are selfish people who are ignoring the social distancing advice for their own selfish needs and convenience. I'm on the list, I'm not sending mine in. I'm still paying for dds private nursery. I will have to work from home on the days I'm not providing school based childcare. Ive offered my services unpaid to keep school based childcare running over Easter. Dh will have to cope with working from home with two kids so he can stay afloat. It's just how it is. I want people to socially distance and keep their kids home as much as possible so that we can end this and I can get back to doing my proper job - teaching your kids.

YANBU I'm classed as a key worker and am a lone parent. I feel incredibly guilty that I still need to send my DS to school and am putting us both at increased risk.

People working from home:

My husband is a keyworker (NHS) and as such our son is 'entitled' to a school place. As I do not work, however, eventhough entitled,we have not taken it up, unlike thousands of selfish people who should be ashamed of themselves.
Lets start with a dinner lady who says her son is entitled to a place. I think NOT when the father is not a keyworker. Disgraceful.