To think these parents should not be able to send their kids to school

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Dad works in a takeaway
Mum does not work. No disabilities
They are sending their child to school as the dad is a key worker and this has been accepted.

To think this is not on and a lot of kids will be sent to school that actually don’t need to be there

Dh and I both key workers in food manufacturing. Dd is 13 and we work opposite shifts so dont need the place offered. Wouldn't dream of taking it.

Our head stated she would need written proof of KW status and that both parents needed to be KW. They will be few kids in our school I think.

My family don't know much about our situation. Not everyone likes to discuss these things even within close family.

I work with priority need, vunerable homeless families and individuals.

I can be part of a child's CP safety plan, I can be the only person in the whole world that a service user could call in an emergency or even speak to. I need to keep them safe.

I am community based floating support for some of the most vunerable people in society.

I was declined as a key worker, but a takeaway driver gets it? Wtf...

It’s so sad to hear that there are people that might be taking advantage. I’m an NHS manager and have struggled mightily with what’s right. In theory I’m an NHS keyworker as my Trust says that we are all necessary and have provided a letter.

However, I can work from home and spaces are limited so I’d rather the space went to someone that truly needed it.

As a single parent it’s going to be hard but I know it’s the right thing to do.

@LakieLady I think the class whatsapp groups have gone into overdrive about him. The staff are proud and so are the majority of the parents. His BS detector has gone onto overdrive

This is really frustrating as I am classed as a key worker (1:1 support worker for an extremely vulnerable child) and I am expected in school next week. However, my child was denied a place at his school due to the demand and therefore I have had to make arrangements and cancel certain days due to childcare issues. I want to help but I can't give my all.

I had the parent of a 15 year old say she needed child care today. She is a key worker I asked what she did in the holidays and she said she just stays at home but if schools opens she might as well come in!
Another SAHM but dad is a key worker wants to send them in to. So I am supposed to leave my children at home to babysit older children for no good reason. Our head wants to be everyone’s best friend so he won’t say no to anyone. It’s really pissing off a lot of staff. He doesn’t get it at all.

Oh and also today we had a staff member turned down as a key worker by a primary school her daughter is at. That person is a member of SLT coming in to childmind and guess what? We had two requests from staff of primary school for their children to be in our school Our wonderful head made a phone call!

But really doesn’t feel right for us. We aren’t key.

It doesn’t feel right for you because, based on what you have written, it isn’t right.

I work in a nursery and most of the parents who were asking if we were open next week are stay at home parents. They really didn't get the key worker bit and feel like they are being cheated out of their childcare. We made decision to close as none of our parents depended solely on us for childcare so safer for them and us to stay at home.

This

The criteria is clear but vague

Takeway worker or uber drive could be a critical worker

Yes @ChloeDecker I’ve established that. But my company have been told that we are key workers by the government so now we look like we are taking the piss out of the company if we don’t try to get childcare sorted. Because they know we can!

My managers still think cake is the be all and end all and have very short memories about what it’s like to have childcare issues.

The government advice is that every child should be at home if at all possible- including those of key workers. Where that is is not possible, schools will provide supervision for the children of key workers (as defined by the government), children with an EHCP and vulnerable children (as defined by the government letter to schools) .
It will be supervision and not teaching in secondary schools. Most secondary schools will run with a skeleton staff daily of teachers, student support, admin and site staff. They will supervise children to complete the learning packs most schools have set. They are not required to deliver the National Curriculum.

I think it will quickly fall apart in secondary schools apart from for a few children. Numbers may look substantial on paper but children will very quickly not want to be there when their friends are not there.

It may be different in primary and special schools.

Our school did a lot of checking today. Job descriptions of both parents, if there were 2 care givers had to be given in.

I’m paying full fees so I’m taking her in.

This is very telling.

It really bothered me earlier when discussing with colleagues that two of them realised they could argue that they were key workers. But we aren't. We all come from key worker industries but we are adult teachers and the qualifications we teach are usually about 18 months long and have already been extended. We can easily easily work from home for a few months , even 6 months

I've had a bad day and whilst I usually really like my team I've lost a lot of respect for them. They were gleeful that they thought they could argue it and not have to look after DC. Now dont get me wrong we ate isolated for two weeks after being heavily symptomatic and its no joke trung to work from home, be ill and look after two ill DC . However that still absolutely does not justify being ti get a school place in a weeks time.

My colleagues behaviour today as well as lots of other things means when the dust settles at the end of the year I will be looking for another job. Amazing how this opens your eyes to people.

DH is a front line key worker (ECA in the Ambulance service) so technically our DC could both go to school, however I'm a mature student and sahm so our DC will be at home as they have been all week. We rang them in 'sick' on Monday as both DC have underlying congenital cardiac issues; as do I.

I have seen today from people I know how they are sending their kids out to the park etc. Our neighbour was moaning about having to have his DD home from school because 'What am I going to do with her?'. I get fucking pissed off that people are being so blasé with other peoples lives. Yes they may be young and MAY NOT get very poorly from the virus but the people them and their DC have passed it to could very well fucking die from it. Absolute selfish fuck nuggets the lot of them.

Do they think that no one else is struggling with being home 24/7 with their DC of all ages? But as adults we fucking deal with it and parent our children to understand that we are just going to have to deal with it, as hard as it may be. Yes be upset, yes be angry but FGS don't send your kids out when you should be self isolating/social distancing.

I received a key worker text this evening from out county council. It made it very clear that even if we are both key workers it is only to be used if children cannot be kept safe at home and also it is not expected that you will send children in every day.

No dispute.

critical workers include takeaway staff and uber drivers

What does it affect you?

To be fair, any kid who has a parent willing to put them at risk for their own selfish needs, deserves our sympathy. People are dying, lots and lots of people will die. Why you would not keep your kids at home IF you could is completely beyond me.

Our school did a lot of checking today. Job descriptions of both parents, if there were 2 care givers had to be given in.

That wasn't the cabinet office advice-they are creating their own rules.

I was offered a place for my middle child at his special school today (he has an EHCP, so is classed as vulnerable). I declined as I don’t work so having him home is not an issue, and the relief in the voice of the lovely receptionist was palpable.

There are several parents in a local support group determined to send their children to school regardless, as they’re ‘entitled’ to the break. Boggles the mind.

No dispute.

critical workers include takeaway staff and uber drivers

What does it affect you?

Well, it affects me because I am risking my life and that of my family’s, just so some parents like the one described in the OP, ‘get a break’ from their own children.