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Original poster

Why does no one want to take any responsibility for their actions or decisions?!

28 replies

EL8888 · 20/03/2020 09:25

I have a member of staff with a young child, she announced yesterday she wishes to work from home as his school closes today. She then gets angry when l say this isn’t possible -we work in a person facing healthcare role. It is impossible, think minor injuries type clinic in your lounge! Also she is a locum so will only get paid if she works. The woman then gets increasingly aggressive and demanding as l explained why, despite the fact she knows why

She also doesn’t want to leave her child with his father / her husband who is not a key worker. They are together for clarity but “she doesn’t like him doing childcare”. I didn’t probe as it’s not my place but Hmm. Desperate times mean we need to be more flexible surely

It’s not my fault the schools and nurseries close and she won’t leave her child with his father. She’s liked earning an enhanced rate for a fair while as she’s a locum. I am more experienced and senior to her yet she is getting a good £10 an hour more than me. So she has been more than adequately compensated for and she chose this, rather than a permanent contract so it’s not a zero contract hours situation she’s been forced into. She had the offer of a contract but declined it earlier this year

It’s a gamble she took and is losing now. I’m annoyed she then wanted to take this out on me. People need to take responsibility for their actions and choices but they never want to do they! To be honest my priority yesterday was keeping our clients appointments and sorting out staffing rather than arguing with her.

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FlyFishingg · 20/03/2020 09:33

How the fuck can she work from home?

Willow2017 · 20/03/2020 09:33

Did you ask her how she could treat patients in her own home?
She sounds an idiot who just wants paid to do nothing.

longwayoff · 20/03/2020 09:34

You need to say this to her, not to MN.

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EL8888 · 20/03/2020 09:36

I put the ball back in her court after her getting angry about me saying no. She was like errrrr.... I could do paperwork?! Which doesn’t work as we don’t do masses of paperwork and she can’t document things she hadn’t actually observed E.g. doing the notes after an appointment

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ghostyslovesheets · 20/03/2020 09:37

Her pay is a non issue you are unreasonable to bring that up but as an NHS worker and line parent she can access education provision surely

If she can’t then she either brings her child into work or finds an alternative

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EL8888 · 20/03/2020 09:38

@Willow2017 yep glad it’s not just me who gets a vibe of idleness. I think she was also hacked off as l reprimanded her for being 1.5 hours late for work and not letting us know she would be late

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EL8888 · 20/03/2020 09:40

@longwayoff l did but l was trying to be professional so l could hardly query her lack of reflection about her choices

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Willow2017 · 20/03/2020 09:42

ghostyslovesheets Fri 20-Mar-20 09:37:23
Her pay is a non issue you are unreasonable to bring that up
Not really she is getting a bigger pay than op yet wants to be paid for doing nothing while expecting op to be at work to facilitate her wfh!

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EL8888 · 20/03/2020 09:46

@ghostyslovesheets her pay is relevant to debate as she’s getting paid at an enhanced rate to compensate for no annual leave, sick pay etc. But she wants enhanced rate AND the benefits of being permanent member of staff. It doesn’t work like that. We can only pay her while she works or we don’t pay her may need to terminate the arrangement

No, it’s not a setting where you can bring your child that’s an option for no one. Totally inappropriate if she’s seeing patients and everyone else is too busy to watch her child

I suggested she wait to see what the school can offer her and we can take it from there. Don’t think she liked that suggestion either

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TulipsTwoLips · 20/03/2020 12:37

I wouldn't waste any more time on her. The systems and procedures are there and are clear.

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EL8888 · 20/03/2020 12:56

^ don’t worry lm not. I’m getting on with other stuff. She claims the school haven’t been in touch but surely they would have done by now.

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TabbyMumz · 20/03/2020 13:35

Schools have sent out an email with a form to complete to state you are a keyworker. If she hasnt had it, she needs to contact them. If less people go out, wont there be less minor injuries? Ie no work for her to do?

Number3or4 · 20/03/2020 14:00

If her dc school can’t accommodate her childcare request, then in my London bough you need to contact the education authority who can send your child to a different local school. I just heard a lady say this at the school gate, so I’m not entirely certain if it is true. As I haven’t looked into it.

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EL8888 · 23/03/2020 08:31

UPDATE: l got a text at 7:45am today saying she can’t come in as she has bad hayfever and is going to see her GP today. Hmmm ok Hmm

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FrankIncensed · 23/03/2020 08:55

Good job she will be staying inside social distancing then which will help avoid the high pollen count. What a waste of NHS resources at a time like this. She sounds like a nightmare.

Sidge · 23/03/2020 08:57

If she thinks she’s going to see a GP today, especially about hay fever she’s got another think coming 🤣🤣

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EL8888 · 23/03/2020 08:59

I sincerely doubt she’s seeing a doctor today, they are a little busy at the moment!!! If it’s hayfever just go to Boots or Superdrug etc and get some medication.

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Stronger76 · 23/03/2020 10:17

If her husband is not a key worker he has to do childcare. Tough.

shinyredbus · 23/03/2020 10:27

So I guess he doesn’t get paid if she doesn’t come in?

NotMiranda · 23/03/2020 10:36

I was going to say exactly what @Stronger76 said - it's not that she doesn't have childcare available, it's that she doesn't want her partner to care for their child. Tough. In this case, no worky, no payee.

The school arrangements are to cover people with no choice - single parent key workers or couples who are both key workers. And they're already overstretched.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 23/03/2020 10:40

NHS doesn't prescribe antihistamines for hayfever and I can't imagine a stretched GP service only taking emergency triaged appointments would see her anyway.

MrsSpenserGregson · 23/03/2020 10:45

She sounds like a twat

B0y0naBike444 · 23/03/2020 11:12

I thought that schools were staying open for key workers children & certain other families ?

Ponoka7 · 23/03/2020 11:13

It's shocking how many women have children with men, especially multiple, who aren't capable of looking after them, yet they carry on living with them.

We used to get castigated on here, for pulling up the posters who said 'men don't see mess/can't manage our children/work a washing machine' posts. Or when we asked why they were pregnant again. I hope this makes the generations of women behind us see why we need to stop making excuses and a few women get out of the partnerships that they are in.

However it could be laziness on her part.

Metoyoutoo · 23/03/2020 11:20

ponoka7

It’s not like he can’t look after the child, she won’t let him! Big difference