To be disgusted in my employer?

[PlainBritishFlour]

I work for a very large pub company.
They have not closed their venues.

In fact they are keeping ALL of their many hundreds fo pubs, bars and NIGHTCLUBS open.

Don't believe me Facebook search your local Popworld.

Nobody is allowed to post a lot on social media.

Even fucking better now is that managers who are short on staff have to communicate with others in their area to lend and swap bar staff. So travel around and work in different venues.

Also Guinness and Ale is on sale 👍

I have friends, family and colleagues who work in these venues and I am now terrified.

They just don't give a flying fuck. What is it going to take for them to stop endangering people.

And don't have any faith in the great British public. They are absolutely going out. Even to our nightclubs.

And these people are not the most naturally sanitary. And some are still working.

Stonegate are all about profit

Write to your MP. Such policies disrespect the government request on reducing social contact.

And when people start posting here that they’re in debt because they’ve just lost their job, that they’ve been to the food bank and there was nothing there because of stock piling, will people on here be telling them that at least more people aren’t dying so they should be grateful they’re still alive?

As unpalatable as it seems to be for some, this has to be about more than just coronavirus. Because during and after this is all over people will still have bills to pay.And without a job that’s going to be a bit hard isn’t it?

I’m not going out to pubs and clubs, but it’s a fine line. Because the pubs and clubs who are closing are throwing their employees under a bus, but the people going to the ones which are still open are not heeding the advice.

There are rights and wrongs on both sides of this.

If it's the one I'm thinking of, aren't they putting in place some precautions like no standing at the bar and making people sit separately from each other?

And before anyone says that they have a health condition and are at risk, so am I. In fact if I catch it I am very unlikely to come out of the other side based on what my consultant said about me falling ill again without there being coronavirus in the equation.

But in this instance it is up to me to take precautions to keep myself safe where possible.

And I realise that this is about more than just me and that other people have lives too.

Being furious that people aren’t being made redundant left right and centre achieves nothing other than to show that people don’t care about the bigger picture.

As I said, if people feel they shouldn’t be going to pubs and clubs, then don’t go to them. And as you’re presumably now all self isolating or living in lockdown you’re not going to come into contact with the people who do are you?

@AlternativePerspective Thank you x Someone who actually has a brain and understands this situation!!

In Ireland and other EU countries, virtually everything but essential stores are closed to ensure we limit the spread of the virus as much as possible.

However, we will be able to utilise the billion euro support package from the EU for people who are not working. The Irish govt. has also announced today that no-one can be legally evicted for the next 3 months either.

(I wonder if the hardened Brexiteers on here still believe the many lies about the EU including the infamous ‘they need us more than we need them’ bollocks.)

I have friends and older family members in the U.K. and I’m very worried for their survival. I’m so angry with Boris and his bunch of inadequates right now and the silly fuckers that voted for them.

My local stonegate pub was still promoting quiz night until yesterday. I suspect the only reason they cancelled was because they realised how few people would be there.

Don't go to work they like the rest of us still have bills to pay

Sorry to sound harsh but m8 who ploughed his life into a business is set to loose everything.

They are very silly to stay open. Maybe as more speeces are made and we start to restrict things they will close.
Ds works for a large brewery in one of their bar restaurants, they will be closing tomorrow. They have also called him to say he'll get 70% wages while closed.
They'll call in two staff at a time and give them different areas of the very large facility to do a bit of maintenence, kitchen cleaning, table scrubbing/moving and vacuuming etc, while closed. He sounded so relieved when he called me. College for him closes tomorrow, all classes are going to be on google play.

Italy had 500 deaths from this in one day yesterday. Think about that. And it would be way, way more if they hadn't restricted people for ages. People need to need this advice. Bigger picture stuff is important to consider, but you'll rapidly give no fucks about that if someone close to you dies. Then maybe it'll be real enough to listen.

I bet they're closed before monday, along with Wetherspoon dick heads,

Kazzy

There is no right insurance.
We've lost everything and the extensive insurance cover we have doesn't touch it.
No bail out for us, no sick pay and can't claim benefit.
What should we have done differently?

I wonder how many deaths there will be because of businesses shutting down.

People unable to survive, ending up with serious health problems, suicide because of 1, not being able to feed their families and 2, the impact on MH which comes from isolation.

Isolation is used as a form of torture for a reason. Think about that.

The bigger picture is unfortunately much, much bigger than Coronavirus. Yes, we need to try to limit its spread, but we also need to try to limit the casualties of those measures.

IMO the impact on MH is going to be far, far worse than the impact of coronavirus.

My local council leisure centre wont let me pause my membership and is refusing to close as they want to keep taking money
Our LA sent and email out this morning saying that they are not taking any direct debits out in April and will extend the membership for people who paid annually.

Perhaps it's a case of Darwin's survival of the fittest. If you're stupid/selfish enough to go to these places in a time like this, then....

I presume everyone complaining about this have stopped going to work? Just so they’re not in contact with lots of other people?

Unpaid of course...? And if not, why not?

Not all positions are work from home, the hospitality industry being a case in point. But nobody is as yet suggesting that everyone who cannot work from home just give up altogether to limit the spread?

So if everyone in the entertainment industry should be made redundant, then presumably you should as well?

But how is that worse than supermarkets still being open ? Retail staff are having to serve 1000’s of people a day so they are probably at the highest risk of contracting the virus?
It’s not really possible to close everything down and then risk complete economic collapse?

I think it is irresponsible that council leisure centres and swimming pools are still open.

I work for a council leisure centre we only closed today and a private swim school which closed the other day. It's crazy to stay open when all the schools have shut down.

My sister works for a domestic oil company and was told yesterday that they won't be closing as they're making so much money off of people panic buying oil. They won't be sending anyone home (even those who are vulnerable) and if you choose to self isolate as a result then you don't get paid.

@DanglySpider

So people were supposed to predict that their business would go under from a virus?

No, but it covers more than a pandemic!

Which is actually beside the point. If a business doesn’t have this insurance, it doesn’t matter what the Govt says and if they do, the govt have said enough for it to be valid. So on this one point it’s not the Govt fault at all.

If you run a business you need to find out what insurances are available and decide which you’re legally required to pay forvthen which you’ll choose to pay for and which you’ll take a risk on not having, but you can’t go crying if you choose not to have one.

If they don’t, their choice is now is to find out what grants &=loans are available to them and do the decent fucking thing!!

Not put staff & others at risk & not out staff out of work.

We've had to bank everything today and gone completely cashless.

Some think we're going to close.

It's just all around terrifying.

We stay open we risk getting sick and the virus continuing to spread through the degenerate mouth breathers who visit.

We close....fuck fuck fuck fuck.

I don't want to be an adult anymore.

Popworld are advertising cheerfully they are still.open and are following hygiene measures.

Clean the floor as much as you like dudes...as soon as big Jimmy coughs that's everyone around him exposed.

Put some pressure on them on social media. This is peoples lives. Literal life and death. Ridic

You complain when they stay open, and when they close you realise that means you don’t have employment. Honestly, it irritates me that people can’t see beyond their own noses.

This is going to have huge impacts. Did you just think it would impact others and not you?

I hope everything works out for you OP and I don’t mean to be harsh but it’s time to get real.