So what class are you in?

[alwaysmoody]

I see a lot of comments about social class "la di daaa"

So I'm curious to which class you would all place yourselves?

Honestly?

I'm from a LC background but I'm wealthy now from my own hard work and live in a MN area from what I've gathered (Chiswick) but I definitely don't fit in with these "mums" I still prefer having my friends from council estates in hounslow over

So what social classes are you from? And please be naice

Physically revolted, dexra? Don’t be so affected, fgs. It was a lame attempt at joke

Oh, sorry . That’s the trouble with these ridiculous threads, you really can’t tell.
I apologise 💐

I’m just me- I muddle through life doing my own thing.

So I’m muddle class.

There is of course an Irish class system. It’s less complicated and fraught than the UK one though.

And I find there to be a lot more mixing across classes than I see in the UK.

I hate that simplified version of the BBC class calculator because it puts too much weight to income and assets.

As a new graduate in a tough economy, I came out at emerging service worker - as did all of my friends. Except it took no account of the fact we were all from MC backgrounds, and have all now fairly naturally progressed to higher salaries.

We didn't change class in doing so. I think it's an awful way to portray it, it hides lack of mobility by pretending that young MC people like my home social group aren't likely to acquire more in their careers, meet and marry other MC people and one day inherit money from our MC parents.

I’m not Upper Middle enough to be Upper Middle but probably tending towards the upper of the Middle Middle. If that helps.

hate that simplified version of the BBC class calculator because it puts too much weight to income and assets.

That's the BBC for you

Well according to that calculator, we are "Established Middle Class", what a load of bollocks!! Well saying that has dropped me down a class or two.

I come out as elite on that thing 🤣. Sadly, I have to agree - total bollocks.

@Linguaphile

With the marked exception of the entrenched Ivy League elites, I think it the States it is almost completely down to money. Looking in from the outside, the family seem very crass nouveau riche to me. Spotless and perfectly decorated house, caked-on makeup, designer labels, flashy cars, lots of posed social media posts, and the mum once told me they like the idea of holidaying “anywhere the royals might go.” To me they seem very lower middle with money.

I would agree, in the US it's driven by income and assets almost exclusively. The family you describe would be called "social climbers" or nouveau riche here.

We live in a pretty ordinary house in a good area. I rarely wear makeup, most of our holidays are either to the beach or doing uni visits with the kids and I drive a Subaru Impreza with 111k miles on it. We're also debt free, including no mortgage, and have good to very good retirement savings, so here UMC probably.

The BBC calculator was necassarily very simplified. But there was an accompanying book which was full of really interesting observations and insights

the fucks it to you?

Wearing makeup or not is not, in any sense, a reliable class marker.

derxa

I'm physically revolted by the words “toilet” and “pardon”.

I can totally understand.

@femidom12 Rude

But I guessed you were being arch.

There's no official guidelines, but I consider it
Working class = household income under 30k after tax
Lower middle class = household income 30-49k after tax.
Upper middle class = household income 50-75k after tax
Upper class = household income 76k+ after tax

I don't really consider those solely on benefits working class as it's not earned so not sure where they go! (no judgement, we've been there!)

It's not just about income or job or where you live, at all.
I live in a MC kind of way now (I have a degree and a 'graduate' type career working for myself), we buy organic groceries, go to the theatre, have a cleaner, listen to R4 etc, but I was brought up working-class and still feel it.

It's hard to define but I can generally tell someone who grew up MC or above.

I'm probably upper class by birth, maybe upper middle, but you wouldn't know if you knew me irl. I'm totally not posh, went to a comp. Couldn't care less about class, in fact I made efforts to hide my background at school.

As a family we have oil portraits of numerous relatives going back to 8 or more generations and are in Debrett's. The poshest members of our family live like they have no money; for example their bathroom looks like something out of a period drama as it's not been updated or probably decorated since 1940. Still have a rubber shower adapted on the tap...They do have an estate and visit the Royals though!

Breeding or economy? It depends.
I'm middle class. Daughter of a doctor. Married to a lawyer. Educated to Masters level. Own my home and my children go to private school. Though I did inherit some money from my father (and husband) neither of them did, but their education and ambition allowed them to get professional jobs. For example my husband's dad was a builder his mum a hairdresser and his was the first generation in his family to go to university and get professional jobs, an example of social mobility.
And there are plenty of 'upper class' who have no money - family may have in the past but inheritance tax and modern economy means they need to work too.
But I bet people would not consider my husband working class, despite his blue collar background, but a Lady X who has no money of her own - she would still be considered upper I feel.

I live in a HA house.
I was homeless for a few years

Oh from a we background, child of immigrants.
Went to uni etc etc.
But very poor and currently unable to pay my gas/electricity. But just temporary
Think I'm like every one else I know
All from different backgrounds but equally struggling slight.y. Enough food but sometimes fall behind

I would consider myself middle class, but not very well off. What might have once been termed the 'genteel poor'.

I find this interesting too... I’m an Irish peasant, lol.

I live in rural Ireland, where I truly believe classes don’t exist - peasants and millionaires all drink in the same local pub lol. After the rugby rape trial I was surprised to see that a class system actually existed in a city like Belfast, possibly a religious element too?

All through the generations of my family they were dirt poor, living as farmers on land that wasn’t very farmable. All hard workers but just not the means to do better. No or little education in rural catholic areas. However my parents have done incredibly well and are self made millionaires, but they’d balk / be very offended at the suggestion of being called middle class / upper class.

By the income brackets someone listed earlier, this makes me Lmc. Is it the same if I'm a song,e parent so therefore single income family.
My siblings all range from me (lowest income) to my elder brother CEO of a company in Australia, also a consultant in something or other and earns six figures. My ex earns hmc rates but my children do not benefit from that at all