So what class are you in?

[alwaysmoody]

I see a lot of comments about social class "la di daaa"

So I'm curious to which class you would all place yourselves?

Honestly?

I'm from a LC background but I'm wealthy now from my own hard work and live in a MN area from what I've gathered (Chiswick) but I definitely don't fit in with these "mums" I still prefer having my friends from council estates in hounslow over

So what social classes are you from? And please be naice

I skipped gym class today... does that make me middle class or not working class? I just can't work it out!

It makes you a school child and so your class is dependent on that of your parents.

Always known I was middle class.

Working class = household income under 30k after tax
Lower middle class = household income 30-49k after tax.
Upper middle class = household income 50-75k after tax
Upper class = household income 76k+ after tax
This is balls. It puts DH and I as upper class (by a long chalk)... we just aren't. We earn decent salaries but have none of the following

• land
• staff
• a multigenerational asset pool

DH works with upper class people and it's a small, tight knit world with little migration in or out.

Perhaps it’s more that the upper classes simply see through other people. You don’t exist or matter.
It’s only them who’s important, knows how to live. The rest of us are cannon fodder to be mocked.

@Frankiecandle

About which bit? But yes probably I generally mean most things tongue in cheek and I am usually the butt of my own jokes. If you mean "taking the piss" in a trying to cause offence or upset then no

All the boxes. Think of the Children.

These class distinctions have little to do with money, or education. Born upper class, you stay that way. Lots of upper class people struggle for money. Lots of working class have money now. Its snobbery at it's finest.
In the USA its called new money, or old. The new money are looked down upon.
It is upbringing, manners, what you call a toilet, what you call meals. How far you can trace your family tree.
We all are what we are.

senua, no, middle class people DO work , same as working class, it's the type of work and education they do/have that puts then into middle class bracket - as well as the type of social life they lead. Upper classes don't work (at least some of their family members) and also the very poor don't work.

I think class is how you grew up not what you went on to make of yourself, your children born into your better circumstances may well be middle class.
Thats why i hate class systems, its deeply unfair and a birth lottery, like a lot in life really.

Clarissa, not quite, anumore. There is a lot of social mobility and education helps. For example, parents who's dome well as working class / sports people send their children t private school and children then use all the right words and imitate peers at school - so surely they become middle class regardless of ancestry (and then also job opps). Also many people who aspite can easily learn the 'right words', manners, attitudes if they want to 9while young so it becomes a choice and gets ingrained).
I'd say the middle class is bigger than ever now because of the mobility. But Upper class (aristocracy, and possibly the educated rich now in that category) still out of bounds for most, and also the proper working class with generations staying in skilled/manual work has diminished a lot.

There are just mannerisms, accents, views that stay with you from the class you were brought up that give it away if you like even if at first look you now seem in a different class..

This is balls. It puts DH and I as upper class (by a long chalk)... we just aren't. We earn decent salaries but have none of the following

• land
• staff
• a multigenerational asset pool

DH works with upper class people and it's a small, tight knit world with little migration in or out

You could however afford the first two, I would consider that world the elite. I'm not sure if you're trying to humble brag and enjoy being told how you're upper class 'by a long chalk' or not.

I thought by council accommodation you meant council housing. But there is without doubt a homelessness crisis. Horrible conditions for those eligible for help. Is there? I didn't realise you got slumlords in this country!

In the States, it’s all about money. I live in CT, and sure there are the old money Mayflower families, bedecked in Lily Pulitzer and who are heavily into skiing, sailing and sending their kids to Choate or Exeter, but they’re kind of a dying breed.

This made me smile. You described my SIL to a T. After her second divorce I remember visiting her and asking how she was planning to fund her lifestyle in the future. She sighed and said "I just don't know. I've tried dating every available millionaire in Greenwich and there just isn't a single one worth marrying."

I always find it silly when someone says ‘You work so you must be working class.’ There is an absolute gulf between the experiences of someone on minimum wage and a partner at PWC for example. When there are so many barriers to accessing elite professions, it does no-one any favours to pretend there aren’t class markers, differences in lifestyle etc that contribute to a lack of social mobility.

Thanks @mingvase
I do think class takes factors other than just income (in some countries at least) but I get your point

I have a friend who's insistent he's middle class, he works, owns his own home and is a bit common. Me, If I had to say which I don't think I should, I'm working class.

I cleaned for an elderly man years ago. He told me in the 'good old days,' if a wealthy person died with no family they'd leave all their money to their GP and the vacuum cleaner to the cleaner. Makes sense

I didn't realise you got slumlords in this country!
Oh yes. They tell us we should’ve grateful as well for the ‘high quality’ accommodation they are so generous to bestow on us as well, and that if we don’t like it we’re selfish because we’re paying for their pensions. The people who write laws are landlordsso not gonna change. It’s not true to say, as MingVase did, that class exists in every society: that’s another of the delusionary self-justifications. Europe has very little of it, being largely comprised of democracies. Once we leave the EU properly the lower classes of Britain will find themselves living openly under imperialist systems soon enough.

At my DCs private school all the MC mums keep their DC away from us nouveau riche, crass, WC mums incase their DC start swearing or eating monster munch. We try and keep our DC away from theirs because they are the ones who always have nits and I don't want to have to throw away my DCs Moncler coats if the fur gets infested.

@Frangipanini it sounds like fun. 🤣

No monster munch are definitely more middle class.

Upper class Twiglets
Upper middle class Kettle Chips (ready salted flavour, maybe a classic flavour, nothing crazy)
Established Middle class Vegetable crisps
Lower middle class Monster Munch or Hula Hoops
Working Class supermarket own brand called things like monster claws or loops
Lower working class value brand cheese puffs or space raider multipacks from Poundland

Pom bears and your a mumsnetter sorry forgot that bit

I'm posh me.

Though going down in the world- started out as upper class. Now probably viewed by most as middle class. (Bought my house -with mortgage- but inherited furniture)

These class distinctions have little to do with money, or education. Born upper class, you stay that way. Lots of upper class people struggle for money. Lots of working class have money now. Its snobbery at it's finest.
In the USA its called new money, or old. The new money are looked down upon.
It is upbringing, manners, what you call a toilet, what you call meals. How far you can trace your family tree.
We all are what we are.

Nailed.

For example, parents who's dome well as working class / sports people send their children t private school and children then use all the right words and imitate peers at school - so surely they become middle class regardless of ancestry (and then also job opps).

Absolutely not.