To feel anxiety-ridden by Joe Wick's new speech on parental anxiety?

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Anyone else seen it on Instagram?

I only heard about this guy on here a few months ago and started listening to him, which I now regret!

Basically, he's created a 'helpful' video to respond to messages he's received from anxious parents in response to his numerous posts documenting his jetset lifestyle.

He claims that anxiety holds many people back from travelling with kids and eating out with kids and through that, you're missing out on 'making precious memories' (cringe). He claims that eating out with his young kids is great fun and they're not phased by sleeping in noisy bars(what?!) and restaurants because he and his wife have never enforced a routine and have been gleefully relaxed on their magical parenting journey.

He references being anxious about choking, jetlag and overseas diseases (all of which I'm guilty of) and dismisses these fears, too. They're actually very real fears, in my opinion. (Particularly having seen numerous people on my flight last week wearing face protection . . . !)

I only watched the damn video because I am an anxious parent with a son who has been tough going from day one and I thought it might help me chill a little. Instead, I'm feeling really conflicted. Part of me is pissed that this tool has made me feel lousy for not embracing some of the opportunities with my son that were available but part of me thinks it was a genuine attempt to help and I'm being too sensitive.

I'll try and link it if I can, if anyone is interested.

Honestly OP, the last celebrity parenting book I read, and that was only for the laughs, was Paula Yates'. Not so funny now of course, but why they think that having children and being celebrities makes them experts, I don't know.

I'm sure nobody turned a hair in Tulum, but I'm not certain how much small children enjoy being dragged around strange countries.

Not sure who this Joe bloke is, I have seen his name somewhere, either for keep fit stuff,or food things, But sounds like he is a self appointed expert on all things.

I wonder if he sits at home,and imagines that he has become god like,and is changing the lives of all the silly people who listen to his crap.

He hasn’t even started his ‘parenting journey’! Let’s see how magical it is when the kids are teenagers . Let’s hope by then they’ve got the balls to turn around and tell their twat dad to stop putting tossy shite about them on social media.

Like RefuseTheLies, my dd was a rigid baby, who needed routine. I was advised to use Gina Ford by the neighbour as I was very much a good with the flow personality. Dd loved it, including the breastfeeding schedule. She was about 8 weeks and I was on my knees (And I know she is not liked on here by some and I have read the reasons. Ie low supply..... But mine was pretty established by 8 weeks by the constant feeding on demand).

Anyway, this man sounds like a 10 year old in a grown up body. Not all children are the same. My dd certainly wouldn’t have settled in the pram / pushchair instead of her bed or fallen asleep on a chair. I did this myself as a child, but dd needed certain conditions met.

As for not having changed your lifestyle since having your child and going on as before. Is this because you have a full time nanny and baby sitters? If it is, I think this is what you should be focusing on. Spending quality time with your child so that they can form strong attachments. Is it really necessary to be jetting off here, there and everywhere? Your baby needs predictability and routine to feel safe.

im really starting to wish people would STFU (and I do have diagnosed depression & anxiety condition) with their 'got anxiety' shit. Latest sleb bandwagon.

He’s a sanctimonious twat and
I hope his kids grow up to exist entirely on galaxy and lob his kale chips and quinoa at his head #weanin15

I haven’t watched this but just going from your post. He obviously has easy children, but doesn’t know it because it’s the only experience he has. The biggest myth is that if you are a relaxed parent your child will be relaxed! It is a baby lottery. My little girl wouldn’t go in the car/ pram/ basically anywhere without screaming hysterically. We had no life for 18 months. She’s amazing now though. But I think opinions like this really don’t help if you are struggling with this kind of child- when she was in the baby phase it did used to upset me how easy some people actually have it! Routine was everything and even now we can’t break it.

If he had a baby with colic, or just generally high needs he would be talking very very differently.

I'm not going to watch the video, as I discovered some time ago that I cannot bear this smug little cunt.

I'm sure life is easy for millionaires who can spend their time going here there and everywhere.

He probably get his holidays paid for by promoters.

You should know by now that social media is usually a complete facade.

Great for him living his 'best life', but i always think oooh thank fuck for celebs having babies and telling us how to do it properly, with their endless books, videos, hints and tips, blogs, vlogs etc.

Nobody knew what the fuck to do with their children before the wise words of myleene Klass and Holly Willoughby and Joe wicks et al.

Oh OP, he is the most smug, sanctimonious, self-congratulatory knobhead. There are a couple of threads on tattle devoted to how much of a smug bastard he is, and how he thinks he is an expert on so many subjects of which he has very very little experience. You should have a read of them, they might make you feel better.

He has had the easiest baby ever, and he thinks it's all down to him being 'calm'. His second doesn't seem to be quite as easy so he might learn his lesson soon.

He also offers advice to his followers on marriage (he's been married about 6 months) and mental health (he appears to have severely disordered eating and be so obsessed with exercising every day that he sometimes does it at 2am, and then preaches to his followers that 'there's always time, don't make excuses).

Just stop following him. He's fucking awful.

That's the trouble with instagram and the cult of the low brow celebrity. They think because they got famous for being reasonably competent at one thing, they are automatically qualified to preach to the masses about every other fucking thing.

And young, impressionable people hang on to every word they say. So someone who is famous for doing push ups and a bit of macho man-cookery is suddenly Doctor fucking Spock.

I don't know of Joe Wicks and would take everything, however well meant, with a pinch of salt.

Gina Ford, mentioned earlier, I think is awful and am very glad she wasn't around when I had mine, not that I'd have paid all that heed. I can't imagine not looking my baby in the eyes while feeding, babies look up at their parent when feeding and want eye contact, not being affectionate during feeding (the affection wasn't just for my benefit), putting in own room as soon as possible and waking at 7 am for a feed whether the baby wants to wake then or not.

With mine I just went with the flow, no strict rules and all turned out well.

He's clearly an idiot BUT I do agree that anxiety shouldn't stop you from enjoying life with your child or put you off doing things. And while I don't think it's as simplistic as 'relaxed parents have relaxed babies', I do believe anxiety breeds anxiety and that children pick up on our anxieties and mimic that behaviour. I do notice a difference in the children of my friends who are prone to being anxious and very cautious.

But it's simplistic at best to believe that just being zen leads to zen children.

People like to think their baby/small child’s temperament and behaviour is down to their superior parenting. Having had 2 who were basically polar opposites as babies and toddlers I know this isn’t true. It does have an impact, but not as much as smug people think. If you’ve got a higher needs child no amount of being laid back or flexible will help. Some need structure, routine and familiarity. Some you can take anywhere and they’ll behave.
I take issue with anyone dismissing anxiety, would we just dismiss a broken limb? Some people genuinely believe their ‘easy’ child is down to their superior parenting. It has an impact but, as I said before, I think a much smaller impact than we like to believe. Some kids are easier than others. Sensible people realise that a large part of it is down to luck. Arrogant people believe it is down to them as a parent. I avoid anyone who believes they’re an oh so amazing and carefree parent and preaches about it.

In the nicest possible way why do you care? You said yourself the post was made in response to criticism he has had of his lifestyle. He is not wrong but you are not wrong either. Everyone has a different way of parenting just because you don’t do things the same as someone else it doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Different is just different there doesn’t have to be a value judgement attached. He probably felt under attack by the negative comments and felt the need to defend himself. Now you feel under attack and feel the need to defend yourself.actually both of you are fine. Don’t worry about what other people do unless it really is abusive.

He had a nutritionist to help with weaning. He lives a totally unrealistic lifestyle. His eldest is 2!

I cooked carrots and mushed them up into ice cube trays. BLW wasn't even a thang when I had Ds1. Yes, I'm that old. I never had anxiety though. He really is an idiot. Why are you watching him op if it makes your anxiety worse. Let's see if he makes silly parenting advice videos once his kids are 21!

He’s a dick- and a lot of his stuff is ghost written for him.

He is so annoying. Since having his child he has become the worst performance parent but unfortunately with a following and influence. He will probably cringe at some of his posts when his child is older. I have two young children but have unfollowed a lot of influencers since they have had children as they have become very single minded and preachy about their parenting style.

People like to think their baby/small child’s temperament and behaviour is down to their superior parenting.

Yep, people are insistent that it's all down to them, so long as 'all' is good! I have a friend who was v smug about her 'good' baby, which was apparently due to her instinctive understanding of their needs. Curiously, however, the fact that they're now the toddler from hell is just one of those things and nothing to do with parenting...

I think his eldest is younger than two, isn't she? I think she's about the same age as DS, who is 20 months, because I remember his weaning stuff pissing me off when DS was just chucking everything on the floor and would only try fruit and not veg, which was all apparently my fault.

Also - never believe ‘influencers’ on social media. It’s all lies and smoke and mirrors for money.

I already thought he was a twat and now I know it. Can’t stand his fitness stuff.

What on Earth does he know about parenting and why see him as an oracle? Just ignore. I haven’t heard what he has said because I can’t bear to but I get the gist. In five years I guarantee his kids won’t be sleeping in bars.

Hell will freeze over before I take advice from any bloke who's a new parent - the fact that his whole fitness 'empire' relies on all this positivity, energetic, SM friendly crap makes him even less useful to listen to.
It balls, in a few years time he'll be posting about MH and the pressures of SM.
Any if any of it is actually true, then good for him but he has a ton of money to pay for everything that eases jetting around with kids, a flexible job, and a missus who also has loads time/money/flexibility,

You need to unfollow ASAP... and get you're anxiety support/advice from qualified sources...

Oh I saw him away recently in Mexico with his 10 week old and had a momentary pang of regret that we didn’t take ours abroad until they were 10 YEARS!
But then thought all that baby got out of that was a long flight, risk of illness whilst away from healthcare we trust, wrecked routine and a few nice photos. Neither the baby nor the toddler will remember a thing. Wha the point?

He has oodles of cash and constantly posts about how pretty his wife is and how amazing she looks in a bikini straight after birth. If that’s what floats his boat then go for it Joe. Ramp up the air miles and ruin the planet for your kids.

He’s not a parenting guru. You do you OP

We have amazing memories of British seasides and campsites and my kids are just fine.

He literally had his first child for a few months when he started dishing out unwanted advice. So I promptly unfollowed. He should stick to what he's good at...live in Santa Barbara and embrace the American lifestyle. This guy only went viral because of his lean in 15 videos. Who made him a child expert...get outta here.

Empty vessels make the most noise.