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To wonder if any of the 'new' Conservative voters in the flooded North/Wales are pissed off with Johnson yet?

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WarwickLife · 21/02/2020 19:40

Boris Johnson seems to be virtually invisible these days- refusing to be interviewed on the BBC, not answering journalists questions and not turning up immediately to show support for the flooded communities in Wales and northern England.

Just wondering how any of the new Tory voters from the old 'red wall' type communities are feeling now, and if anyone is regretting voting as they did?

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Insaneinthemembury · 21/02/2020 19:44

I'm a Tory voter in Wales, I dont blame a man in London for the storm fronts over the Atlantic, no.

CrazyChickenPerson · 21/02/2020 19:45

I don’t get it.
These places would still have flooded whoever the PM was.

ohnooutofdateham · 21/02/2020 19:47

Did Boris cause the flooding?

(Not a Tory voter btw, or welsh)

Lordamighty · 21/02/2020 19:48

Is Boris making it rain?

HeresMe · 21/02/2020 19:49

I'm not sure corbyn would have made a difference.

slipperywhensparticus · 21/02/2020 19:51

Just because its traditional doesnt mean they "have" to do it

Clavinova · 21/02/2020 19:53

Local news op;

'Why did it take South Wales to flood for Welsh Government to act' say council leaders.

"Denbighshire and Conwy's council leaders said First Minister only acted after South Wales floods - but the Welsh Government 'rejects' the accusation."

www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/why-take-south-wales-flood-17785530

WarwickLife · 21/02/2020 19:53

He's absent at a time of crisis and clearly doesn't give a shit about those communities. Where's the billions £ investment in flood defences? Where is the emergency support for people who've lost their homes, farmers and so on?
The government appears to be asleep at the wheel. They spent the week attacking the BBC and rolling out an immigration programme instead.

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MrsJoshNavidi · 21/02/2020 19:54

Perhaps the Prime Minister is busy running the country.

And perhaps the floods wouldn't have been so bad under a labour government.

Jellykat · 21/02/2020 19:56

He surely has been invisible, has he shown any sympathy for those struggling? If so i must've blinked..

AdaStarkadder · 21/02/2020 19:56

I think he's an utter git but you can't really blame him for all the rain!

ShesGotBetteDavisEyes · 21/02/2020 19:57

I think there is help available for people who have been affected. The other day on the radio it was advertising the fact that people are entitled to a £5k grant to better flood defend their homes and encouraging them to take up the offer.
Boris can’t control the weather. People who live in areas likely to get flooded have to take some personal responsibility although it’s an awful situation to be in.

WarwickLife · 21/02/2020 19:58

So running the country doesn't involve doing anything to prevent these floods @MrsJoshNavidi ?? Hmm Zero investment, either financially or empathetically.

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WarwickLife · 21/02/2020 19:59

That's because of third sector charities @ShesGot and not from central government. Have you missed the news this week? The volunteer services are on their knees.

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Aposterhasnoname · 21/02/2020 19:59

OMG, this is hilarious. Ten quid says you’ve never been flooded in your life OP. You seriously think that Boris turning up would make a difference. Trust me, politicians cluttering up the place is the last thing we need.

ColourMeExhausted · 21/02/2020 19:59

No, you can't blame Boris for the rain, obviously, but you can blame him for refusing to at least be visible and show an interest/sympathy or call an emergency meeting...kinda PM basics, no?

CalmYoBadSelf · 21/02/2020 20:00

I've never been convinced that PMs and dignitaries turning up is for the people affected, I think it is more for PR and distracts from sorting things out.
I'm perfectly OK with him not coming up North

WarwickLife · 21/02/2020 20:00

@Adastarkadder very droll - but you can blame him for the lack of help and lack of prevention.

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WarwickLife · 21/02/2020 20:01

Exactly @colourme

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Jellykat · 21/02/2020 20:01

That's a ridiculous argument to say he cant control the weather, there's been many other occasions that have been out of his hands, but which he's released a sympathetic statement about!

ShesGotBetteDavisEyes · 21/02/2020 20:01

Yes, I think if he’d turned up to do a sad face act it would’ve been “oh look at him , so false - first brexit and now he has the gall to show up blah blah blah...”. He can’t win really!

WarwickLife · 21/02/2020 20:04

@Aposterhasnoname we have been flooded, and you are missing the point / over simplifying the issue. Where is the support and prevention investment? Part of his role is to show solidarity and put his money where his mouth is. Those communities were top on the list when he was courting their vote, but now they're in trouble they can cope without any support from central government.

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Jellykat · 21/02/2020 20:05

Completely disagree ShesGoBetteDaviesEyes..

Clavinova · 21/02/2020 20:08

BBC: "What has the Welsh Government done?"

"Between £5m and £10m has been announced to help all 800 flooded households, according to First Minister Mark Drakeford."

"But Plaid Cymru said the flooding raised "serious questions" about the Welsh Government's response."

"Environment Minister Lesley Griffiths, on a visit to Tylorstown, Rhondda, defended funding for NRW and £350m allocated towards flood defences."

"She said defences seemed to be holding up but there would be lessons learned to ensure there was full capacity to deal with climate change."

"Mari Arthur, a member of sustainability organisation Afallen Cymru and chairwoman of Welsh Water's independent advisory panel, said: "It's a shame we've not acted sooner."

"We've known about climate change and weather, we're having more extreme weather and there are things we can do to prevent the effect on communities."

"She said the Welsh Government, Welsh Water and Natural Resources Wales needed to come together and has suggested creating the role of a "commissioner for flooding".

"No one body can do it on their own.We're missing that leadership, I feel, at the top to bring that together.That's why things aren't happening."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51549881

GingerBeverage · 21/02/2020 20:11

There's no point him doing anything. If he showed up he'd probably just blurt something offensive, and while he's in hiding Dominic Cummings can crack on with running the country instead of having to spin away another gaffe or affair. Easier all round.

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