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To draw a line under this marriage?

72 replies

NeverGuessWho · 18/02/2020 09:24

Chatting to H this morning about our separation (currently still living under the same roof,) about how he still loves me, doesn’t want to get a divorce, etc. I still love him too, but have reached a point of no return.

He says the issues in our marriage are things we could “get over” if I wanted to. I am turning to mn for perspective. Writing it down, is also an attempt to show myself that I am making the right choice, and should not doubt myself. Some of the things I have tried so hard to “get over” over our 26 year relationship, are as follows:

Being mean, unreasonable and aggressive to our eldest DD

Telling me he was leaving me whilst I was mid contractions, having our first child (24 years ago)

Grabbing me twice around the neck (approx 15 years ago)

Grabbing me aggressively by my arm (approx 15 years ago) and by both my wrists, refusing to let me go (a couple of weeks ago)

Backing me into a corner, shouting and swearing in my face, whilst heavily pregnant (approx 15 years ago)

Forging bank statements when I’ve asked for evidence of the balances of the joint account & one of his personal accounts, when he repeatedly told me they were massively overdrawn, and I suspected they weren’t

Repeatedly refusing to put my name on any mortgages, or deeds of properties that have been our family home - twice when we had DCs but weren’t married, and most recently (6 years ago) when we were married and had 4 DCs living in the family home

Making me sleep on the floor, next to our bed, rather than him sleeping on the sofa/in DS’s bed. DS was 4, in chronic pain and wanted me to hold his hand as he slept. I was about 8 months pregnant, and all 3 of us couldn’t have comfortably have fitted in the bed together (about 10 years ago)

Verbal abuse...ongoing throughout our relationship

Spraying bleach directly into my face when I was heavily pregnant, because I asked him to wait till I’d finished eating before cleaning the table (10 years ago)

There are many other things that have happened, not to mention me being accused of arguing every time I happen to have a different opinion than him; never sorting the children in the night when they woke through illness or nightmares; never actively letting me have a lie in at the weekend, even when the DCs were tiny and I’d been up all night; never prioritising weekends as family time and never wanting to do normal family stuff, like go for walks or go on days out - always too busy/too tired, on the odd occasion he agreed, it was tense and clearly not what he wanted to be doing; a general undertone of selfishness, uprightness and impatience/ intolerance at home, which I’m ashamed to acknowledge, has filtered down to us as a family.

I was a SAHM until youngest DC was at nursery, & then worked PT around the DCs. This has enabled to call all the shots financially, and I think gave him a sense of being superior, contributing more to the marriage than I ever have.

I’m probably BU to seek reassurance on this, but it’s helped massively to list even just a fraction of the “issues” that I’m being told I should be able to get over in order to save our marriage.

There’s so much more, especially recently, but it would 100% out me.

OP posts:
PurpleDaisies · 18/02/2020 09:26

Why on earth are you still with him after he strangled you and sprayed bleach in your face?

Do you honestly expect people to tell you not to leave?

Enchiladas · 18/02/2020 09:28

Draw a line with a permanent marker OP.

He is an abusive, horrible man who doesn't deserve you or your kids.

mollypuss1 · 18/02/2020 09:29

He sprayed bleach in your face? Christ, run and never look back.

champagneandfromage50 · 18/02/2020 09:30

In terms of your reasons for separating I am
surprised you didn't many years ago.

Have you ensured you have registered an interest in the family home?

niceclock · 18/02/2020 09:31

sounds like you should have left him years ago...

BeenHereForAges · 18/02/2020 09:32

OMG you've been treated appallingly. Any one of those events were reason enough to leave. I'm sorry you felt you had to stay. Absolutely you should divorce and never look back.
I wish you the best of luck with your new happy life OP.

YouTheCat · 18/02/2020 09:33

Have you had legal advice?

blissfulllife · 18/02/2020 09:36

You've put up with more than enough crap off of him. Leave and enjoy your life with no guilt!

TwitcherOfCurtains · 18/02/2020 09:36

Be careful op, abusive people don't like it they're victim tried to leave, it's a very dangerous time for you.

You should phone women's aid to get some professional advice.

Iloveacurry · 18/02/2020 09:36

You should of left him years ago.

Geminijes · 18/02/2020 09:37

I'm surprised you stayed with him after he told you he was leaving you while you when in labour 24 years ago.

Kick him into touch.

Enjoy the rest of your life free from the abusive pig.

Idonttrackpeas · 18/02/2020 09:40

How can you love this man at all?

candycane222 · 18/02/2020 09:40

I didn't even need to read the whole post before it was clear you need to seize this opportunity with both feet and RUN!!!!!

Boom45 · 18/02/2020 09:40

Of course you should leave, he sounds appalling,
but as pp have said be very careful. If he's put his hands around your throat that is a warning sign for how dangerous he is capable of being. Please speak to women's aid or a similar women's charity and take their advice about how to.minimise the risk. Good luck OP and take care of yourself.

recrudescence · 18/02/2020 09:55

There is absolutely no way back from even a fraction of what you’ve described here. Very best wishes for a better life without him - your only regret will be that you waited so long.

MyOwnSummer · 18/02/2020 10:15

I second the PP who said get professional advice from Women's Aid. The throat/choking thing is a red flag for serious violence.

Yes, you are doing the right thing by leaving. Christ, what an absolute wanker he is. The superior and selfish attitude alone is enough to call it a day, the rest is actually quite scary.

You're married, so you will be entitled to a share of the properties. And if you lived together before marriage I believe this would be taken into account at the division of assets, though I hope someone with more experience in these matters will be along to give more detailed advice on that.

You're doing your kids a massive favour by leaving, by proving that this treatment of another person is not acceptable. Staying would send the opposite message.

LucyAutumn · 18/02/2020 10:17

You deserve and can do so much better OP. Flowers

44PumpLane · 18/02/2020 10:23

Run, run away as fast as you can and do not look back.

Valkadin · 18/02/2020 10:25

I was in an abusive first marriage, really dreadful but you often lose yourself and almost don’t notice and minimise stuff. What’s especially dreadful is it seems like he escalated abuse each time you were pregnant.

Do not consider for a moment staying with him. I do have one bit of advice you have lived under extreme circumstances for many years. You will either shut that part of your life away or you will have a realisation one day how terrible it was. It’s at times like that you can suffer mentally so please get some professional help, contact women’s aid. It was a few years ago but I saw someone and she helped me a lot. Plus they can help you with a plan to leave as safely as possible.

The violence towards me and cruelty escalated when my ex knew it was coming to an end. They lose control which they don’t like. Mine used to threaten to kill me and I honestly think the chance was high. Do not tell him anything. I ended up virtually running away. As much as a sensible solid plan is better I just had to do it. I also relocated a couple of hundred miles away. Get all your important paperwork and get out ASAP I appreciate you have four dc so it’s harder. Do you have anyone you can stay with who you trust and could get to at short notice?

Have no idea if you have ever confided in anyone about him. If you haven’t and it’s been hidden which is very likely people will be shocked. Plus they don't want to think that their brother, son, friend is like that so be prepared for some possible disbelief, this puts you at risk. A Dad of one of the kids on our sons football team murdered his wife about five years ago. Everyone was shocked as he seemed such a lovely bloke apparently. It’s how abusers get away with it all hidden to the outside world.

Good luck and whatever happens getting away from him I absolutely guarantee you will have a better life as will your dc.

Sbnd · 18/02/2020 10:30

I started reading this post because I'm going through a difficult time with my H but I'm shocked at what you have had to go through. There is light at the end of the tunnel. My God, you need to get out of this 'relationship', it's really bad, but please get professional advice all the way. Citizens Advice Bureau are great as a first call. Wishing you the very best of luck.

Cherrysoup · 18/02/2020 10:34

How have you stayed so long?! Get him out, he’s abusive and a horrible person. Why do you doubt this? Even one of the things he’s done would make me leave.

ilovedjerrymore · 18/02/2020 10:38

Awww op bless ya you should have left years ago but I know it’s easy for people to say that when they are not in your position. You have taken A big step now and that’s what’s important you are separating, don’t look back or let him try and worm his way round you. Your nearly there you can do it. Don’t waste many more years with this man move on and look forward to a brighter future with you kids. Good luckSmile

Drum2018 · 18/02/2020 10:45

Are you planning on leaving the family home, as it doesn't sound like he'll be the kind of person to leave quietly. Have you somewhere to go asap? Id be concerned about being anywhere near him now, given his violent tendencies. If you don't have somewhere to go contact women's aid. I wouldn't stay with him.

Nanny0gg · 18/02/2020 10:58

One of those reasons is enough.

Any more violence, call the police IMMEDIATELY.

And what exactly is liveable about that man?

I hope you've seen a solicitor.

Nanny0gg · 18/02/2020 10:58

*loveable