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To draw a line under this marriage?

72 replies

NeverGuessWho · 18/02/2020 09:24

Chatting to H this morning about our separation (currently still living under the same roof,) about how he still loves me, doesn’t want to get a divorce, etc. I still love him too, but have reached a point of no return.

He says the issues in our marriage are things we could “get over” if I wanted to. I am turning to mn for perspective. Writing it down, is also an attempt to show myself that I am making the right choice, and should not doubt myself. Some of the things I have tried so hard to “get over” over our 26 year relationship, are as follows:

Being mean, unreasonable and aggressive to our eldest DD

Telling me he was leaving me whilst I was mid contractions, having our first child (24 years ago)

Grabbing me twice around the neck (approx 15 years ago)

Grabbing me aggressively by my arm (approx 15 years ago) and by both my wrists, refusing to let me go (a couple of weeks ago)

Backing me into a corner, shouting and swearing in my face, whilst heavily pregnant (approx 15 years ago)

Forging bank statements when I’ve asked for evidence of the balances of the joint account & one of his personal accounts, when he repeatedly told me they were massively overdrawn, and I suspected they weren’t

Repeatedly refusing to put my name on any mortgages, or deeds of properties that have been our family home - twice when we had DCs but weren’t married, and most recently (6 years ago) when we were married and had 4 DCs living in the family home

Making me sleep on the floor, next to our bed, rather than him sleeping on the sofa/in DS’s bed. DS was 4, in chronic pain and wanted me to hold his hand as he slept. I was about 8 months pregnant, and all 3 of us couldn’t have comfortably have fitted in the bed together (about 10 years ago)

Verbal abuse...ongoing throughout our relationship

Spraying bleach directly into my face when I was heavily pregnant, because I asked him to wait till I’d finished eating before cleaning the table (10 years ago)

There are many other things that have happened, not to mention me being accused of arguing every time I happen to have a different opinion than him; never sorting the children in the night when they woke through illness or nightmares; never actively letting me have a lie in at the weekend, even when the DCs were tiny and I’d been up all night; never prioritising weekends as family time and never wanting to do normal family stuff, like go for walks or go on days out - always too busy/too tired, on the odd occasion he agreed, it was tense and clearly not what he wanted to be doing; a general undertone of selfishness, uprightness and impatience/ intolerance at home, which I’m ashamed to acknowledge, has filtered down to us as a family.

I was a SAHM until youngest DC was at nursery, & then worked PT around the DCs. This has enabled to call all the shots financially, and I think gave him a sense of being superior, contributing more to the marriage than I ever have.

I’m probably BU to seek reassurance on this, but it’s helped massively to list even just a fraction of the “issues” that I’m being told I should be able to get over in order to save our marriage.

There’s so much more, especially recently, but it would 100% out me.

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AlpacaGoodnight · 18/02/2020 16:40

Please OP leave him, for you and the children. Get legal advice ASAP but please never go back Flowers

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 18/02/2020 16:45

Leave op but please get help and be careful. Do not be alone with him. I'm guessing he will turn nasty SadFlowers

Littleninja1 · 18/02/2020 16:55

OP you are married to a violent, controlling man who still lives with you. You absolutely have to leave (as you know) but you have to be careful. As others have suggested, contact Women's Aid and make a plan. He mustn't know you are about to leave. He probably still feels he can save this and could be violent at the point of realising you are going for real. Get all your ducks in order without him knowing and then one day walk out with the DCs (if they are still living at home).

Then enjoy the wonderful new life you will have. You will be happier, much happier. Stay strong.

NeverGuessWho · 18/02/2020 17:09

I am finding alternative accommodation and plan to move out ASAP.

He already knows this. Our DCs have been to see the new flat that we are hopefully moving into.

Apart from a couple of weeks ago, he hasn’t been physically aggressive or violent to me in several years, just verbally.

I know things are likely get worse the nearer it gets to me leaving, but I don’t feel I am in danger.

The DCs want 50/50 contact, they’re not living in fear of him, if they didn’t want to see him, I’d do everything to prevent it, but they do want to share their time equally.

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NorthernBirdAtHeart · 18/02/2020 17:14

Definitely not unreasonable OP.
I know it looks daunting, but no one deserves the treatment you’ve had, you have the rest of your life ahead of you, don’t waste it with such a bastard. You deserve to feel loved, safe and happy.

Deep breath, be brave, you CAN do this Flowers

happywifi99 · 18/02/2020 17:15

I'm so sorry, I think moving out is definitely the best plan.
I would also wonder if your children are actually much more aware than you think. I was very oblivious to a lot of the stuff my dad did (not on this level of bad, but still not great) but by the age of 14 I damn well knew he was abusive, manipulative and aggressive. Now as an adult I see it a lot more, and wonder how much of it I missed as a child.

belinda789 · 18/02/2020 17:19

Because I had the room, I offered sanctuary at my house to a woman with two children and a dog. Her husband was beating her. She stayed for five months whilst getting her act together. During that time he would sit in his car outside my house – where we could see him muttering and cursing. This could have been considered a threat to me as well as her had I called the police. They were divorced and she eventually remarried. ( A really nice man). He went on to marry an absolute dragon of a woman.

Gingernaut · 18/02/2020 17:21

He's emotionally, physically and financially abusive.

YADNBU

NeverGuessWho · 18/02/2020 18:48

Thank you all.

It’s been an eventful day - I’ve had an appointment about a new claim for Universal Credit this afternoon. The man who carried out the appointment was so lovely and kind. I told him the bare minimum about the situation, but I think he could sense that things were much worse than I was letting on. He told me I should go to the Liberty Centre - which is for people in domestic abuse situations.

I found myself sitting there, talking to a really lovely woman who gave me the number for a solicitor who comes & gives free advice. I’ve driven past the Liberty Centre so many times, but never thought of my situation as being bad enough to warrant me going there.

It’s a lifeline - I’ve already paid for an initial appointment with a very good solicitor in January, but now I can get a bit more advice for free before having to pay again.

For all the people telling me I deserve better, and will be happier on my own, thank you so much.

Although deep down I have known this for some time, when he’s being witty, or charming, or seemingly kind (he can be all 3 in buckets) I do find myself thinking I might be over reacting.

I will re-read this thread many times over in the weeks & months to come. It will give me all the strength and reassurance I need to leave.

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NorthernBirdAtHeart · 18/02/2020 19:23

Whenever you think you’re over reacting, or you feel your resolve weakening, come back here and read that list. It’s amazing what you’ve achieved in just one day.

We’ve got you! x

NeverGuessWho · 18/02/2020 20:16

@NorthernBirdAtHeart
Thank you! 😊

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Alsohuman · 18/02/2020 20:28

What a lot you’ve achieved in one day. You should be very, very proud of yourself.

Amiable · 18/02/2020 20:41

Do NOT listen to him! These are not things you can "get over". He sounds like a controlling bully, and you will be well shot of him. Read your list back to yourself - what would you say if it was your friend or a member of your family telling you all that?

user1473878824 · 18/02/2020 21:33

My darling. I am SO sorry you’ve dealt with this. Well done for getting out - that’s so amazing. Please do keep referring back to this thread! I know MN can be a nest of vipers but we are all here for you.

IndigoHexagon · 18/02/2020 21:43

We get one life. Don’t waste the rest of yours with this man.

Shaminon · 18/02/2020 21:49

You're making absolutely the right decision Flowers

We are all here for you.

Runningonempty2020 · 18/02/2020 21:54

Of course you must leave, as everyone has said he is abusive. But please please make every attempt to be sorted and safe before you leave. I work in homicide and I've seen too many women murdered by abusive male partners. When the woman plans to leave is the most dangerous time. Take care OP. Talk to Women's Aid.

Gadgnkk · 18/02/2020 21:56

His behaviour is absolutely beyond the pale and you are doing the right thing. Spraying bleach in your face is criminal, aside from all the abuse you have described.

Rosspoldarkssaddle · 18/02/2020 22:10

Sweetie, you have born this for long enough. He has controlled and bullied you throughout and now the time has come where your strength is driving you to make the break, he will do anything and everything to gain back that control. Be prepared for tears, apologies, anger, undermining, blows to your self esteem, ridicule, begging, threats etc. Please stay strong. If you have done your job, your kids will remain protected from the worst of his behaviour and may question your decision. After failing to prevent you leaving, he may start on them. Be ready for it.
So glad you have made a stand. Time to look forward to your new life. X

timeisnotaline · 18/02/2020 22:16

Oh op. You should get over it by talking to the domestic abuse people- I’m so glad you stopped there. I think you should protect yourself from things you bad as you head up to leave by talking to the police too. Tell them the bleach and the violence and say he grabbed me again a few weeks ago and I know what he’s capable of and he doesn’t want me to leave, so I’m afraid of what he may do as it gets closer to leave date.
Tell him he should be in jail.

QueenOfPain · 18/02/2020 22:24

Leave him, but before you do, get advice from Women’s Aid and see a really good solicitor.

BurMaMa2 · 18/02/2020 22:43

You have been brave and proactive. Very well done. Do you think your children's father will endanger you by knowing where you and they are living? Would supervised contact (by experienced childcare professionals) be safer for them and you? I would worry that he might try to worm himself back into your lives and continue his nasty, dangerous behaviour.

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