To report colleague for racist comments

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I don’t want to be classed as a tell tale as I know this never goes down well and I’ve already reported one other person for racist comments before. I feel like I take things too personally and maybe I should put up and shut up and stop rocking the boat.

We work in a healthcare setting and this person has made several racist comments about China and Chinese people and the corona virus and telling a very blatant personal story about how they’ve asked to be move away from Chinese people in a public place.

I feel it’s inappropriate to say these things in a work place. Whatever your personal thoughts about different people, they should not be shared when you’re at work. Just for context this person isn’t English/British. They’re Eastern European.

Yes report them and make it clear from now on that you won't stand for that behaviour. Racism against Asians seems to be seen differently than against other POC.

The thing is the OP will probably have appeared to stand for that behaviour because she didn't say a word to the person at the time and (worse imo) didn't back the one person in the room who actually did challenge them.

The OP should report obviously, but if was the only person in the room who challenged them, I'd be disappointed in everyone else including the OP.

My god, so@EBearhugyou not only want to report to an authority that someone was racist, but you want to set the tariff of punishment also?

No, that's what HR is for. I wanted education more than anything, and I don't think that happened. I would also like consistency with what is in the code of conduct, and other things which result in disciplinary. I don't currently see evidence that they will act consistently.

Just for context this person isn’t English/British. They’re Eastern European.

What context is this providing? A person is either being racist or they aren't. Surely you aren't suggesting your decision should be different depending on the nationality of the person making the comments, because that would be weird.

It's interesting that someone has already mentioned the famous Martin Niemöller 1946 poem ("First they came for the socialists") about the horrors of not challenging racism, fascism, evil. It deserves to be quoted to every opportunity.

However, the OP chose to encourage us to vilify her colleague by mentioning that she is "Eastern European." Hitler believed the Slavs were untermenschen and planned to enslave and annihilate the Poles, Russians and so on en masse to free up living space of lebensraum for nice, Aryan Germans. He systematically murdered millions and would have murdered many more had the Allied forces, in particular the USSR, not eventually prevailed over him.

So every time you repeat the anti-Slav shite that gets casually bandied around all the time on Mumsnet, congrats. You are A* in your Nazi ideology.

Perhaps he is only making these remarks because he knows you will react !
I have worked with people like that,maybe it is best to ignore.

I think lots of people are pretty sick of the horrific cruelty to living creatures inflicted in China. The gratuitous eating of live creatures and total lack of humanity has long enraged plenty of people. I don't really care what happens in China but I think people have a right to judge others for revolting and inhumane behaviour as much as for any other bad behaviour.

What does that have to do with a thread about racism?

Judging individual people for their revolting and inhumane bevhaviour isn't racist.

Judging a whole race of people for it, is.

Most people with the virus/carrying the virus are Chinese - in China. Most people who have it England? Well who knows, I suspect they are English but I could be wrong.

Perhaps he is only making these remarks because he knows you will react!
I have worked with people like that,maybe it is best to ignore.
So pleased I don't work with people like you.

Quite a lot Worra. As someone who spends almost all their time on social media, I assume you can see the link between people not caring much for people who are just reaping karma and people who vote BNP and smash in people's windows. I'm sure you must understand that but appreciate that baffled lefty is your USP on almost every thread on the Internet ever

Nope, you're still not making sense Avelinebread.

Are you excusing racism due to China's treatment of animals or not?

Because that's certainly how your post came across.

@Avelinebread - pretty unpleasant comment carefully constructed to skate just the right side of the Talk Guidelines.

The references to thought police are bollocks. This is about what someone actually said. I also imagine the reference to the person's background might have been an attempt to indicate that person might themselves have been subjected to racism, but that's only a possible interpretation.

I'm sure you can tell me, you seem to know everything about everyone ever on the Internet. Boring.

I'd quite like you to tell us all Avelinebread, since it was you who wrote the post?

So again...

Are you excusing racism due to China's treatment of animals or not?

Challenge directly - don’t report at this stage .

The only reason I wrote the person’s place of origin is because they’re not British and there are a lot of social stereotypes that can be associated with where they’re from. They can easily be subjected to racism aswell and even talks about communist regimes that they were forced to live under. Yet she is still ignorant and often makes remarks which are prejudice/racisT.

Yes in some ways I guess I am if you count not caring how those people are and thinking they deserve it. Not because they are Chinese but because they are beyond compassion.

So in some ways you're excusing racism. Ok, that's all I asked you a couple of posts ago Avelinebread.

pretty unpleasant comment carefully constructed to skate just the right side of the Talk Guidelines.
Aveline's comment was clearly racist, I dont see how it could be within the Talk Guidelines?

Personally I think your blatant ethnicism towards Eastern Europeans is shocking. Why the need to identify their ethnicity at all. Take a look at yourself!

Perhaps you could consider not telling other people how to post? Especially since it clearly makes you look hypocritical here.

Yes, I have a job and be prepared to be mind blown now...I can also manage to type on Mumsnet when I'm not at my place of employment.

No I wasn't referring to Aveline's comment about the Chinese but to her initial comment to Worra.