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Liqourish or Liqouriss?

107 replies

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/02/2020 23:25

I say Liqourish but in a couple of audio books I have listened to lately, both the readers say Liqouriss.

Am I wrong?!

YANBU for Liqourish
YABU for Liqouriss

OP posts:
EBearhug · 14/02/2020 07:43

went into town to buy some Pontefract cakes

And you actually found them, @SophieW1967? I wuz robbed!

Hyrana · 14/02/2020 07:50

I say Licoriss but I think it should be Licorish. NE Scotland.

1066vegan · 14/02/2020 07:51

ish

I've never heard the iss pronounciation.

NameChange84 · 14/02/2020 08:17

@ MrsJoshNavidi I say Tiss-you for tissue, iss-you for issue etc...

Xanadu58 · 14/02/2020 08:22

I pronounce it ish but my dad says iss .

Chickychoccyegg · 14/02/2020 08:34

iss, its got to be iss, how can it be ish?? there's no h.

OlaEliza · 14/02/2020 09:21

Lick-er-rish

MinkowskisButterfly · 14/02/2020 09:27

Lickrish, I'm in the north, dh says lickerish and he's from the south.

isabellerossignol · 14/02/2020 09:33

Definitely 'iss' where I am from, have never heard anyone say 'lickorish' although I remember googling it after hearing someone saying it on TV and being amazed to discover that it can be pronounced either way.

I know it's irrational but I really hate hearing it pronounced with the 'ish' sound, it always sounds to me like someone is doing it to take the piss

AlpacaGoodnight · 14/02/2020 12:18

Ish, iss sends a shiver down my spine in the same cringy way as when people say marshmellow

Trillis · 14/02/2020 12:43

I'm from Yorkshire. Definitly ish here. Also ish ue and tish ue as well. I'll have to ask MIL, who speaks 'posh southern'. She definitely says iss for issue and tissue (I'm afraid i've corrupted DH, who in the 20 years we have been married has gradually swapped all his long vowels for short ones :)

SophieW1967 · 14/02/2020 12:45

Lol did you try and buy them in Pontefract itself ? When I was a kid growing up ( I' m 52 now) those liquourice cakes were in most Liverpool sweet shops ,I was always the weird one chewing on a liquorice stick/ raw twig instead.Funny how times and tastes change ,last year ( living down in Brighton) I bought a few of those ' Flying Saucers' which when I was a kid two pieces of sweetened rice paper full of really sparkly,explosive sherbet.Wow I' be either been subjected to so many more tastes/ sensations in the 40 years since I last had them but they were as total let down .Same as ' Sherbet dab' the sherbet in the new ones was just like sugar but the liquorice was exactly the same.Wonder if they' he wrecked the recipes to these British 70' s children' s favourites or we just ' romanticise' elements of our childhood as we get older ?? xx ..

SophieW1967 · 14/02/2020 12:49

Wow I' be never actually heard that one before.Often wondered if the flowering herb called Marsh Mallow has anything to do with the sweets ? I haven't eaten animal products since the 70' s so haven't had a marshmallow in over 40 years ( generally have egg white and gelatine in them) x

lazylinguist · 14/02/2020 12:53

Do no MNers have a dictionary? Grin My Oxford Dictionary gives iss and ish as correct U.K. pronunciations. It also gives the American spelling variation which is 'licorice' rather than 'liquorice' (but gives no indication that the U.S. pronunciation differs from the U.K.'s equally acceptable choices of iss and ish).

lazylinguist · 14/02/2020 12:54

Oh, forgot to say - I pronounce it as ish. And it tastes vile.

MintChocAddict · 14/02/2020 12:56

Another Scot here (not Scotch Wink )

It's clearly iss not ish.

There's no second R in sherbet so therefore it doesn't rhyme with Herbert!

It's marshmallow.

While I'm here can I also point out that the things you put your pants in are called drawers and not draws Hmm.

lazylinguist · 14/02/2020 12:56

Oh one more thing... posters who are saying "But there's no h in it! And no other words ending in -ice are pronounced 'ish'"... this proves nothing. English pronunciation rules are known to be bonkers.

PettyContractor · 14/02/2020 13:08

Liquoriss. Where do you get the "sh" sound from?

I get the "sh" sound from the way everyone I've met in real life pronounces it. I don't think anyone who use the word derives their pronunciation from the spelling.

In English word pronunciation often has little to do with spelling. For the river "Thames" should "th" be pronounced as in "thin" and "ame" as in "same"?

Twenty2 · 14/02/2020 13:10

'Often wondered if the flowering herb called Marsh Mallow has anything to do with the sweets ?'

Yes, this is exactly where the name for the sweets came from originally. The roots, and to an extent, the leaves, contain mucilage, which becomes spongy and gelatinous when wet. Nowadays, though, the sweets are made with gelatine. This is also why marshmallow is NOT pronounced marshmellow.

PettyContractor · 14/02/2020 13:14

There's no second R in sherbet so therefore it doesn't rhyme with Herbert!

The second "r" in Herbert is silent,for me. Herbert is pronounced Herbet. So Sherbet and Herbert would rhyme.

Also, a random web page has told me that sherbert is an alternative/older spelling for sherbet.

Galvantula · 14/02/2020 13:16

Iss.

Ish is what English people say on TV 😅

GetTheSprinkles · 14/02/2020 13:20

Yanbu

MintChocAddict · 14/02/2020 13:21

The second "r" in Herbert is silent,for me. Herbert is pronounced Herbet. So Sherbet and Herbert would rhyme.

Grin perhaps that's true but you know what I meant.

Silent R's may exist which cancel out the sound when the word is pronounced. Fair enough.

Adding in imaginary Rs though where they don't actually exist to change the pronunciation doesn't make any sense. At all!

NameChange84 · 14/02/2020 13:22

Herbert is pronounced Herbet.

Eh? Confused

It’s pronounced Her-Bert

Like Hubert!

Or Rupert!

Unless you also say Hubet and Rupet?

brieislife · 14/02/2020 13:37

It’s pronounced Her-Bert

*Like Hubert!

Or Rupert!

Unless you also say Hubet and Rupet?*

The et is more like ut but yes, I pronounce Rupert and Hubert and Herbert like that. Definitely no pronounced second R.

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