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To be pissed off at my friend for disorganising my houseevery time she comes to stay?

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duchesse · 03/09/2007 11:29

My friend and I have what I consider to be a mutually beneficial arrangement, whereby she comes to housesit our house and pets in the countryside for a couple of weeks at a time. She has a holiday away from the town, and we have relatively fuss free time away.

But every time she comes for a fortnight, it takes me another fortnight to restore the house to its usual level of organisation. I am not in any way anally tidy, but I do have certain things organised the way I like them. Like the kitchen and the airing cupboard. It takes three hours every time we get back to find everything in the kitchen and to put it back where it should go. There are cooking utensils in the cupboard with the plates, saucepans rammed any old how into the drawer so the drawer is virtually falling off its runners (there are only six of them and the all stack neatly three by three). All the cutlery is jumbled up, with things like tin openers in the with them instead of next to the stove. When we got back, there was a sheet on the table, and the tablecloths were all with the sheets, dotted all over the airing cupboard.

Her kids throw stones all over the lawn, break things willfully and leave sweets all over the house. I have to hide the sweet jar kept for rewards or difficult times, or they all disappear. Ditto any crisps or biscuits, which her children pinch without her knowledge.

I suspect I'm being a complete bitch about it, but this bugs me even more than the fact they left three days early, and we had to make remote alternative arrangements for the dog, chickens and guinea pigs. I think she is just a really really disorganised person, and tries very hard, but the overall effect is of a gremlin coming to stay. I rather like the old stick, but she drives me BONKERS!!!

Am I being unreasonable or not? I think I am.

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Caroline1852 · 03/09/2007 19:51

Some people have houseworkia, it is a form of dyslexia. Instead of trouble organising letters and words, the sufferer has trouble organising almost anything in a home. Make up lives in kitchen cupboards. Mugs may live in any room, often on the floor. Towels do not have a proper home, ditto table linen and bed linen. There is a test which gives a definitive answer as to whether you are a sufferer: Are all your wooden spoons and wooden spatulas together either in a draw, a cupboard or a pot? If the answer is no (one in one draw, a couple in a pot, one in another etc) then you are a sufferer. Take the wooden spoon test and see.
I am anally tidy but I have a battle as my DP is untidy and I have 4 children. My wooden spoons are all in one pot though!

Alambil · 03/09/2007 19:58

you'd never guess you had 4 kids with the clean-ness of your house!!! It was superb.. I have houseworkia on an acute level!!

TBH if i was going to housesit for someone that had a "side" in the linen cupboard for towels etc Id want a grand tour ... to them make sure it was just-so when they came home (even if it wasn't all week, i'd make sure it was before they got home!)

Caroline1852 · 03/09/2007 20:03

Ah Lewis Fan thanks....but only because I farm out my Cash's name tape sewing on - thank you so much for doing all that. I can imagine I will be calling you again. All items are now pressed and in the boys' wardrobes and draws. That arrangement was a Mumsnet success - for me anyway!

Caroline1852 · 03/09/2007 20:12

draws ?
i mean drawers

Alambil · 03/09/2007 21:20

LOL @ draws

You are most welcome, you got me out of a very sticky situation financially so we are all better off for it

duchesse · 03/09/2007 22:12

Caroline, your wooden spoon test has me worried It had never occurred to me that there might be something wrong with keeping them all in the same pot. Next to the stove. With the other cooking utensils. Should I get help? ahem

Seriously though, unjamming that sharp knife that had been rammed so hard diagonally into the teaspoon place in the cutlery drawer took a good few minutes by itself. I kid you not. The first my husband and I did was rearrange so we could make some supper without freaking out. And I must reiterate that I am NOT a tidy freak. Well, not tidy anyway. I just resent spending any more time than is strictly necessary on ridiculous tasks such as hunting for a tablecloth. And as I said, I do dearly love this friend but she drives me nuts.

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duchesse · 03/09/2007 22:17

Ah, and Lewis, I do take your point, but I do feel that that would be, to put it simply, a complete waste of time, as my friend is indeed challenged when it come to ordering anything. (the analogy with dyslexia really fits). It would only freak her out and she would not take any of it in anyway. I think that everything in the house is in a logical enough place for it to be easy to navigate for anyone. Anyone except this friend and my mother, who is very similar in this respect to my friend. Most people can find things with no trouble here.

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Hurlyburly · 03/09/2007 22:26

Well I am a bit sad about my friend. It's germane to this thread, I think. Sorry about length.

Our friends have a house in France and they say we have a standing invitation, they like us to go and look after it, saves them the worry, blah blah. They won't accept any money other than for bills. So we paid that of course and willingly.

So we went this summer. To show our gratitude we weeded the entire garden. This was no mean feat, the villa stands in more than 2 acres! We watered twice a day - the villa has no irrigation system. We gave the house the most almighty spring clean, scrubbing the skirting boards, the floors, every item of furniture, cleaned the windows blah blah. We took the greatest of care to replace things where they are normally kept. We kept the pool sparkling, absolutely sparkling and it took hours. We found the pool hoover had a crack and ordered (and paid) for a new one. We restocked everything, and bought them three cases of their favourite wine. We bought them a dinner for two at their local Michelin-starred Restaurant. We bought them a huge bunch of flowers. Finally we bought them two maps at auction as a our gift. We genuinely thought we had been model guests.

Yesterday we got a really angry and stroppy email complaining that we hadn';t looked after the place properly. Our friends said the pool had not been cleaned properly (it had but the house had been unoccupied for 10 days after we had left and stuff just blows in to it). The second complaint was that we had left the outside security light on. We had done that for security and because we didn't know we weren't supposed to.

I am pretty sad right now.

escape · 03/09/2007 22:29

Hurly that is BANG out of order!
we have alot of houseguests stay with us, and I'd apprecaite them NOT breaking/ruining things, let alone a thank you note
really really out of order, sorry for you.

LittleBella · 03/09/2007 22:31

God
Talk about noticing the stuff that didn't get done and not the stuff that did.

Send her an e-mail detailing all the stuff you did do. Just to help her focus.

constancereader · 03/09/2007 22:32

hurlyburly, that's awful

duchesse · 03/09/2007 22:34

Oh Hurly, that is awful. Maybe there is some other source of tension causing her to act funny at the moment? (I'm thinking money worries or somesuch?)

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NurseyJo · 03/09/2007 22:37

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Hurlyburly · 03/09/2007 22:51

Well I haven't responded yet - think she is stressed with the responsibility - but she doesn't work or have children to worry about. She gets highly stressed quite quickly. Don't know how to respond. What do you think?

"People who've been before (ie us) think they know it all - but do not and this can cause problems as we have had this year.

We have had P out to look at the pool and he tells us that it was in a right state. Algae had developed. You obviously didn't use the algicide (we had religiously but leave the pool a week and it gets into a mess) and you obviously hadn't checked the PH levels (yes we had every three days - it was the DCs "job" they loved it).

We have also had the joy of our new neighbours informing us that you left the outside light on on the terrace most nights which bothered them, as well as being a waste. (yes but we didn't know they objected and we did of course pay the bills)

The lawn cutting is a problem as the lads who do it have got fed up - it just goes on and on.

We will definitely employ someone to look after the pool in future if we decide to keep it - just have to find the right person. We can't trust our guests!

Not good enough. J (her DH) is too angry to talk to you right now. "

LaCod · 03/09/2007 22:52

lol
you utter ponce

Hurlyburly · 03/09/2007 22:54

Noo. Just have a poncey friend...

LaCod · 03/09/2007 22:55

no to the OP

Hurlyburly · 03/09/2007 22:55

Wrong tense. Did have a poncey friend.

LittleBella · 03/09/2007 22:57

I hate that kind of cowardice. "J is too angry to talk to you right now". Fuck J, she's the one who's sending the e-mail. Don't hide behind J.

Would be very very fuming and therefore would not send e-mail back for quite a while, until I'd calmed down.

chipmonkey · 03/09/2007 23:21

Duchesse, My Mum has dyspraxia, I'm pretty sure. I know the signs, as my ds2 has it, I think I have it to a lesser degree, and one of the traits of a dyspraxic person is that they have difficulties with household chores and organisational skills. When my Mum comes to stay, I cannot find anything, everything is in the airing cupboard ( Sorry Mhamai, we're talking to people in the UK and they don't understand "hot-press") but it is partially damp and has not been ironed. There are heaps of clothes on my clothes-horse, none of which will ever get dry because they are under another mountain of clothes. The kitchen bin is in the back garden. The dustpan is in said bin. I only have her to stay because she is my mother and I love her. Her own house is far worse. If your friend is like my Mum and you on the other hand are like Monica from Friends, I can't see how the arrangement will ever work.
Hurley, at your "friends" I would send them a very snotty letter back.!

Aitch · 03/09/2007 23:32

'not good enough?' !!

i'd want to knock her silly block off. Poor you.

TellusMater · 03/09/2007 23:34

Sorry, but LOL at "not good enough".

It's like she's correcting your homework.

Must try harder hurlyburly.

oranges · 03/09/2007 23:38

It is awful though when house sits go nasty. I let an acquaintance stay in my flat for a week while I was on holiday, and as I only had one set of keys, I asked her to wait till I got in from the airport. In the end, the flight was delayed by ten hours - I did ring to tell her, and suggested she get have dinner in, as I couldn't guarantee when I would be back. When I got back, exhausted, she threw the keys at me and said I'd ruined her evening and stalked out. Even though I'd told her the flight was late.
She'd left the flat immaculate, but I was still shcoked at her behaviour. I've not let anyone stay when I'm not here since.

Anna8888 · 04/09/2007 08:24

LOL Caroline - my wooden spoons are all in one pot

bozza · 04/09/2007 08:40

My wooden spoons are all in one drawer with the foil and clingfilm. For some reason DH always puts the garlic press in that drawer too, and it doesn't go there, it goes in the cutlery drawer. DH annoys me in that way, because he is an "out of sight, out of mind" type person so is happy to just bung things anywhere as long as the house looks tidy, whereas I would prefer to leave things out until I have time to put them in their proper place. So I can see where you are coming from duchesse.