To think that

[JRUIN]

if I see or hear the word 'brave' in the same sentence as Phillip bloody Schofield one more time I think I will scream. A brave man does not hide behind any woman, let alone one who he apparently loves and respects, to hide his sexuality. If he were brave he would have come out years ago before ensnaring a woman and family into his life to cope with the aftermath of his deceit.

FFS can't you just put the topic of the thread of the title instead of trying to road people onto clicking it?

No.

Don’t believe for a second his wife didn’t know any of this.

Not saying what he did was right, just saying I don’t believe she’s as dumb as people are painting her to be.

I agree @CathyTre that your friend was very brave and very decent too. The very opposite of PS in fact.

Mumsnet clickbait title. YABU

Is anyone saying his wife is dumb @puds11? Very unfair if they are. I very much doubt she knew he was gay when she married him, but wouldn't be surprised if she guessed over the years, but maybe by that time it was too late and she put up and shut up for her sake of her kids, in which case she is the brave one and the one who deserves all our sympathy. And yes I too am able to give sympathy to more than one person at a time, just not to the very person who caused all the heartache to his family.

@JRUIN not in so many words but seems everyone thinks she had no idea which to me seems mad. Obviously when they married I doubt she knew he was gay but somewhere down the line she’d have suspected.

Not sure why it would be so terrible for the children for him to be gay 🤷‍♀️ Better than living a lie surely.

Not sure why it would be so terrible for the children for him to be gay 🤷‍♀️ Better than living a lie surely.

Personally I would have been devastated to find out that my dad deceived my mum for years, but maybe that's just me.

You said shut up and put up for the sake of the kids...so she would have been deceiving them for ‘their sakes’ according to you

Theres nothing to suggest anyone deceived anyone.

People change over time, realise things about themselves, grow apart etc, it doesn't mean that anyone was lying, just that things change as life goes on.

You said shut up and put up for the sake of the kids...so she would have been deceiving them for ‘their sakes’ according to you hmm

I said 'maybe' that was the case, or perhaps she couldn't face the humiliation or perhaps she simply loved him so much by the time that she found out that she would rather live in a sham marriage than split. Who knows? I'm just speculating. But even so deceiving in order to protect others feelings is a bit different to deceiving to protect yourself isn't it?

Theres nothing to suggest anyone deceived anyone.

He said in his interview he knew he was gay when he got married. Unless he told his wife this was the case he deceived her.

From what I read, he said he was confused and thought he was bisexual.

Are bisexual people not supposed to get married when they are happy and love someone?

Are bisexual people not supposed to get married when they are happy and love someone?

Yes of course, so long as they are open and honest with their intended.

Yes of course, so long as they are open and honest with their intended.

And you have absolutely no idea that he wasnt.

There are 2 people who know what went on in their marriage, what discussions were had, and what they agreed on.

Everything else is just speculation.

As I said upthread, PS gave an interview on Sunday where he said he did suspect he was gay when he got married. That rather suggests he wasn’t open and honest.

He himself has inferred that his wife was totally oblivious when they got married @DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult

"Suggests"

"inferred"

As I said, only 2 people know what went on for definite.

The fact remains that, in a world where there have been over 100 complaints about 2 men kissing on TV, it's still brave to come out as he has done.

The fact remains that, in a world where there have been over 100 complaints about 2 men kissing on TV, it's still brave to come out as he has done.

100 complaints is nothing in the great scheme of things, especially when you consider that some people complain about such ridiculous things it's untrue, but I do agree it is still 100 complaints too many. I will not agree that PS is brave though, so will just have to agree to differ there.