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JRUIN · 10/02/2020 10:37

if I see or hear the word 'brave' in the same sentence as Phillip bloody Schofield one more time I think I will scream. A brave man does not hide behind any woman, let alone one who he apparently loves and respects, to hide his sexuality. If he were brave he would have come out years ago before ensnaring a woman and family into his life to cope with the aftermath of his deceit.

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10FrozenFingers · 10/02/2020 12:26

FFS! YABVU for posting a another tedious Schofield thread with no warning in the title.

SunshineAngel · 10/02/2020 12:26

@JRUIN That analogy is like saying "OMG I can't be racist, I've got black friends!!!!" haha. But your thread isn't homophobic anyway, just sharing your opinion, which everyone on this site is free to do.

All I've said on the subject previously is that nobody knows what's gone on.

A lot of people say that he's lied for 27 years, but has he? Did he know he was gay when he got married, or is it a slow truth that dawned on him? Did he try to keep it to himself to avoid hurting him family, and in the meantime this only served to delay the inevitable?

There are lots of rumours about him now, but we will never know which are and aren't true.

There are also many people saying he just wanted some publicity, as his light is dimming. Well he's certainly got that if that's the case, on MN alone!

Hingeandbracket · 10/02/2020 12:34

FFS! YABVU for posting a another tedious Schofield thread with no warning in the title.
^This
and then even more U for complaining about sarcasm and then being uber sarcastic when facing legitimate criticism for it.

JRUIN · 10/02/2020 12:42

FFS! YABVU for posting a another tedious Schofield thread with no warning in the title.

Ffs yabvu for saying the same tedious thing as someone has already said on this thread without warning me first! Omg didn't you think to RTFT before commenting! Jesus Christ you've wasted seconds of my precious time now? Yada yada yada......

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JRUIN · 10/02/2020 12:54

That analogy is like saying "OMG I can't be racist, I've got black friends!!!!" haha.

True, but it doesn't make either analogy it less pertinent. As for the rest of your post from what I can gather he did know he was gay when he got married, but even if he didn't know for sure the very least he should have done is be honest with her about his confused feelings before proposing don't you think?

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Sparklesocks · 10/02/2020 12:59

I don't really think it's my place to hypothesise what people knew/didn't know/thought/didn't think when they got married - I don't know anything about other people's relationships in the way they do when it comes down to it, and it would be arrogant for me to assume that I did.

QueenArseClangers · 10/02/2020 13:27

And he apparently only came out because the runner he was shagging said he’d out him. The runner who was less than half PS’s age Hmm

FlaskMaster · 10/02/2020 13:47

I get what you're saying op and you're not being unreasonable in a way, but in another way you are being a bit unreasonable because it's brave to come out and tell everyone the truth knowing that you're going to get grief for having hidden it before. So the cowardly thing to do would be to keep telling the lie, the brave thing is to admit it was a lie and stop telling it.

If Boards Johnson came out and said "sorry about the £350 million a week lie on the side of the bus, obviously it wasn't true and as such we will not have anywhere near that much extra to put into the NHS". I'd think actually that was incredibly brave and honest, and now we can address the situation by looking at the facts and deciding on some sensible course of action. I'd still be pissed off he lied but I'd be glad he stopped lying so we could all move on.

Do you see what I mean? That's why PS is brave. He's owned up to the deception he previously hid behind and he's not lying anymore.

JRUIN · 10/02/2020 19:46

I do get what you mean @FlaskMaster but I believe it was more likely that he came out because he had no choice in the matter, and even if I'm wrong I think after all this time it would probably have been kinder for him to carry on lying for the sake of his poor family. He is a cowardly and selfish man in my eyes.

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JRUIN · 10/02/2020 19:54

And he apparently only came out because the runner he was shagging said he’d out him. The runner who was less than half PS’s age

We don't yet know if this is true, but I would not be at all surprised if he jumped before he was pushed, which of course would make him an even more deceitful person and would make all the people clapping him on the back for being brave look even more foolish.

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Gliese163 · 10/02/2020 22:10

FFS can't you just put the topic of the thread of the title instead of trying to road people onto clicking it?

Iwantacookie · 10/02/2020 22:13

I dont see the big deal about "coming out" gay, straight it really doesn't matter to me.
I think the way it keeps being brought up keeps making me think hes died or something.
As long as him and his family are happy that's all that matters in the end.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 10/02/2020 22:21

Joan Collins was being interviewed by piers morgan today and she said "everyone " had known about it for years and she didn't understand why hed decided to come out now.
If that's true then it points to him getting in quick before he was outed.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 10/02/2020 22:23

Considering the absolute slating he has got, and likely knew he would, he has been pretty brave.

Then theres the millions of people with 'inside knowledge' who know he was shagging this person or that person and they were definitely going to out home. I've read about 100 different versions, and 100 different theories.

Realising who you thought you were for years, isnt actually who you are, then admitting it to yourself, everyone you love then having to tell the world, because, let's face it, he really did have to tell the world, is also pretty brave.

And let's not do any of this "its 2020 no need for a big deal", homophobia still exists everywhere, so yes, it is still a big deal to come out, although it shouldn't be.

It doesn't negate the fact that his wife and kids are going through a world of shit too, but I can sympathise with more than one person at a time.

CathyTre · 10/02/2020 22:23

I’m forty two. When I was very young I was in love for want of a better expression with a close friend of mine. We flirted around the idea of getting together, were very close etc...

He eventually told me after about three years of this flirtation that he couldn’t be with me because he thought he was probably gay.

We’re both Roman Catholic by upbringing and he w as devout and religious. As were his family. Mine a bit more liberal and he a lot more!

He came out at 32 having reconciled his faith and his feelings and met the right man, to whom he is now married and DID NOT have the support of his parents.

That’s brave.

CathyTre · 10/02/2020 22:26

We’re still friends. He’s god parent to my eldest son. But he didn’t dick me around for decades when he knew I was in love with him, even though he loved me too.

user1471449295 · 10/02/2020 22:27

I agree OP.

CathyTre · 10/02/2020 22:29

Me a lot more, not he a lot more.

ClubfootMaestro · 10/02/2020 22:33

I’m fairly sure he was in the press yesterday saying he did think he was gay when he got married.

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BigChocFrenzy · 10/02/2020 22:39

I completely understand anyone not wanting to come out, in 2020 - or probably in 2050 Sad

However, if he has had affairs, then that is no better morally than if he had extramarital affairs with women
and any married man who had affairs with teenage girls would be torn apart on MN - rightly so
Just as vile to groom teenage boys as girls

CathyTre · 10/02/2020 22:39

I think it’s a bit risky to say that kind of hing as fact tbh! He MAY have been, you MAY be right - but if that’s just speculation it’s not a good idea to say it as fact. Unless you have evidence (other than internet gossip).

CathyTre · 10/02/2020 22:40

*thing

Angelw · 10/02/2020 22:50

I’m with you OP.