To wonder why murderers are released?

[malificent7]

I just don't get why any kind of murderer deserves to be freed. Just seen another case where a killer has been released days before the anniversary of the victim's death having refused to disclose the whereabouts of her remains.
Plus why has a terroist recently been released only to reoffend? Aibu to feel that if someone kills a life sentence is appropriate and should mean life.

We’re a Christian country so the possibility of redemption is a key tenet of our legal system.

Ostracising them - if they were on the streets, known as a killer, chances are some vigilante would get them.

Do you see the flaw in your 'logic' there.

It's not unsolvable. Deal with misogyny and racism better, therefore domestic violence. Do the things we know help with gangs. Stop bombing other countries back to the Stone Age and creating terrorists. Proper drug and alcohol treatment and MH support. Better care system. Abolish the military (you'd be shocked to know how many men kill after being trained to kill).

There are a million things we could do to reduce the murder rate. With all the money we save not having a stupid sentencing system.

Terry "Do you see the flaw in your 'logic' there."

if you mean, do I know we're supposed to go after the vigilante? Sure. But given the number of things we can turn a blind eye to, and the things we can apparently forgive, why not just do it this way round for a change?

" (you'd be shocked to know how many men kill after being trained to kill)"

no, I really wouldn't.

Why do I engage with people's 'reckons'? Playing chess with a pigeon.

I am still really shocked at the Scottish priest.

It's funny because I'm an atheist but have been volunteering at church - certain things have made me really uncomfortable and the biggest issue for me is forgiveness. We could have a much better world if we don't forgive certain things.

One thing I find, it's hard to hold anger. It's just easier sometimes to say, oh fuck it, I can't be arsed. I wonder how much "forgiveness" comes about because of that.

and how much prison sentences are linked to costs.

In regards to Jon venables. He had a bad life. We know his home life was shit. I've also read he had sex aged 17 with a female prison worker. That's unprofessional and totally wrong. Perhaps in ways they failed to help him. But I can't help but feel he has a very sick mind and it's not something that can be fixed! He spent eight years in a young offenders unit I believe? He was treated to football matches etc. He came out. Then he's taken back in to an adult prison for child porn. That was his choice as a grown man. Anyone who can look at a child in that way is very sick and dangerous. He came out and repeated the offence again. The best place for him is inside away from the public.

I also think why should he be allowed to start a fresh anyway? I think even at 10 you know right from wrong. That poor toddler who died at the hands of him. He doesn't get his life back. He died in fear and pain alone. His last hours were terrifying. His parents are living a life of pain too. If he had to deal with abit if shit inside then it's still only a very small fraction of the pain he's caused the baby he killed. He's now a grown man in his 30s. His behaviour is what he has choosen. It seems to me he gets his kicks out of small kids being at the hands of stronger older people. Being harmed. Surely he should never be released now? We don't want him near our children do we? I really can't sympathise with him.

Whatnow there were no prison officers involved. The pair of them didn't even enter the prison system at that time.

They were held in secure units, not young offender institutions. The incident you're referring to was an alleged incident reported by the daily fail at Redbank. Which is a secure children's home.

I think some posters don't realise that forgiving someone doesn't mean that you let them off what they've done. It's possible to forgive whilst wanting justice at the same time. I'm speaking as a survivor of childhood SA at the hands of my F and others. Sadly for me, there won't be any justice, as they're all dead apart from one, who the police traced and arrested, but there wasn't enough evidence for the CPS to prosecute. (His accomplice, who groomed my DSis and me and who my DM has suspicions of at the time, as well as the hotel manager) is dead.

Otherwise, the only one who could be prosecuted is my DB, who was groomed to join in the abuse but was also abused himself, though not by our F. He's badly damaged and doesn't deserve it.

It's taken me a long time to get to this point, but hating my abusers will only hurt me and also my DDs. But that it doesn't mean that I wouldn't have preferred for those people who destroyed our lives to be behind bars, especially the one who is still alive and walking free.

However, prison sentences shouldn't be about revenge, but justice. And that doesn't always mean locking them up forever and throwing away the key.

However, prison sentences shouldn't be about revenge, but justice. And that doesn't always mean locking them up forever and throwing away the key.

Yes a close family member of mine was murdered 20 years ago and it hurts that their murderer has been out of prison for 10 years and gets to carry on with their life but they were a young man at the time of the offence and it wouldn't be just to keep them in prison for ever without giving them a chance to do better and start a new life.

Holding onto anger will kill you.