AIBU that criticising someone's spelling and grammr on AIBU is rubbish behaviour ?

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Ive noticed this on Facebook and here. Now I can understand that when people use offensive language people need to pull them up on it. But sometimes people might miss a letter or comma or something and there is always one or several people who make a comment nothing to do with the thread about the OPs spelling or grammar! I mean you logged on to make a comment nothing to do with the thread. We have all made typos and posted things which are not grammatically accurate but some people are just out to get others as they think they have superiority. I especially like it when people are losing an arguement then really get in their with "yeh well at least I can spell properly " or something to that affect. It must be lovely to be so perfect and for my money those peole can stick their grammar where the sun don't shine. As long as a post is legible and understandable its fine., no need to be such a twonk.

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Hepsibar, so would you accept that as a reasonable course of action then, for posters to make others feel 'careless' or 'thick'?

I wouldn't - and actually, MNHQ doesn't accept that either. Some of the SPaG corrections are spiteful and, always deleted if reported.

Please tell me how you can tell the difference between a poster making a typo that they didn't catch, or an autocorrect, and mistake made out of ignorance?

There are certain things that appear regularly and whilst you can never be 100% certain the use of ect for etc, alot for a lot and Iv for I've aren't typos or autocorrects imo they are indicative of poor teaching and learning.

I wouldn't point it out but, yes, I do notice and with increasing frequency.

My thoughts unshared isn't any kind of tragedy...

If only others shared that sentiment!!

@senua

‘Preview’. You have to be joking 🙄

Pointing out someone's defective spelling and grammar isn't going to make any difference to said spelling and grammar. Generally by the stage they are able to post on social media and the like, their education is either well under way or finished and their habits are well established. All you do is make them feel like shite and make yourself look like an arrogant prat who has wilfully missed the point of why the person posted in the first place. Not everyone sitting in a classroom is able to absorb all the information. They might have a terrible home life which means that their education suffers. They might be dyslexic or have other issues which have not been picked up on. Nobody's perfect.

There's a vast amount of SPaG errors on any thread you could read, here or anywhere else.

I can't believe that the SPaG police point out all and every single incursion! Those that I've noticed have looked just rude, because coupled with lack of any passing interest in the topic shows that's how it is intended.

We all have to take responsibility for our communication, which is especially hard when only written, and some are so much more fluent and posess wider vocabs, so find it a lot easier, naturally.

Forums are not about SPaG though, they're about the real joyous and difficult stuff of life.

To those saying that some posts are unreadable, you should move on, or develop a more flexive approach to others.

I would ask, to be sure of my understanding, if absolutely necessary, but I haven't actually come across anything incomprehensible or undecipherable, although the example of 'ect' (etc) ^thread has thrown me, and I don't recall ever having seen it.

I also hate device touch-screen keyboards, as the level of typos have exponentially rocketed since.

They are notoriously poor at written language.

If they were actually any use atall, then no-one would ever make typos or noticeable errors!

Poor spelling doesn’t really bother that much and it’s really easy to make typos, especially when you are typing on a phone ! However I really hate it when there are really long posts without any paragraphs because it makes it really hard to read them.

I can still remember the first time I learned about paragraphs. I was in what is now called Year 2, so would have been 6/7 years old. That teacher was a bit of a dragon who’d scream ‘paragraphs!’ at is when we didn’t do them, rub them out and make us do it all again!

We were mixed ability as well.

I think it depends.

When it's clearly either just a typo, or someone is on their phone, or English not their first language, or maybe it looks like a clear lack of education it's not good to point it out if it still makes sense.

However when it's a repeated error, a one off, for example if someone repeatedly writes "Chester drawers", then it's fair enough it's pointed out. In addition sometimes lack of paragraphs can make something fairly illegible, so pointing it out is valid as illegible will limit the replies. I've also seen threads where you need to read it several times and it still makes no sense, then yes it's worth pointing out. What is the point of it if no one understands it.

However basic errors like " where the sun doesn't shine" v " where the sun don't shine" is not worth pointing out. 😜

Wow theres alot of angry people hear. Dont loose your sh*t over grammer its easy to get it wrong and dosnt effect what the poster says

If someone writes out a stream of consciousness wall of text you have to put in quite a lot of work and effort to make any sense out of it, why would you bother?
If someone wants others to engage with them they will have to make the effort to be intelligable.
Obviously there are cases where someone is in distress and needs help and just might not be able to get themselves together but people usually understand that and respond appropriately ...don't they

I wudnt of brought it up else.

Surely it should read brung, not brought,

People have terrible spilling and grandma now a days.

No I think it's brang or breng maybe it's brong😳

@mrsBtheparker you is such a pendant. Its a reiogional thing. Raiscist

Yeah but where the sun don't shine ....that's rhetoric innit
The rules are different when it's rhetoric, you can have whatever you want, poetic licentiousness 😊

YANBU I think twattish posts critising spelling and grammar should be deleted. Not everyone is lucky enough to have reached the same level of literacy. It's bloody nasty to point it out. How much harder is it for someone with poor literacy skills to access a resource like Mumsnet? And when they do, instead of receiving support and encouragement they get ridiculed and picked apart.

Pointing out someone's defective spelling and grammar isn't going to make any difference to said spelling and grammar.

But it may make them think a bit more, next time they post something, to make is easier for others to actually understand what they're saying. I find a lot of SM posts virtually impossible to read because of poor SPAG. Yes, it does matter, a comma in the wrong place, or lack of a full stop, or a spelling mistake can completely change the meaning of a comment, or can make it nonsensical. The reader ends up wasting time trying to understand what the poster is saying or gets the wrong end of the stick, which can then create confusion or argument.

@mrsBtheparker you is such a pendant.

Can I get hunged for that??
I still recall listening to the Today programme when the then head of Ofsted, Chris Woodhouse, talking about poor literacy standards and he started a sentence 'Me and ??? were told.......'

YANBU because, although spelling and grammar are important, it is better to show a good example in your own writing, rather than criticizing other people, and possibly making them feel humiliated. Everyone should be free to express themselves or ask for advice without being made to feel inferior.

I find that posting style is a good indicator for whether or not I am likely to be in tune with the poster; if they write in a manner which does not jive with me then I will jog on until I find something that speaks more directly to me

But it may make them think a bit more

Eh no, it just makes people self conscious and feel shit about themselves. I try really bloody hard to spell properly, and use correct punctuation. Someone pointing out that I'm wrong (which only tends to happen when they are disagreeing with something you have said, and are trying to make you look foolish) makes me feel like crap. It will also not make much difference. I guess that's what people are going for though. Must make them feel better about themselves.

Even when there are spag mistakes, it's not hard to figure out when someone means just because they put a comma in the wrong place, or forget a few full stops. If you are that good at spag, you should be able to work it out yourself.

There are times when it really does matter. I remember one post about a man "gorping" in the gym.

Since gorping isn't a word it could mean of two very different things - there was a man groping in the gym, or gawping. These would obviously require different responses.

It turned out that the OP meant gawping in the end.

Spelling and grammar are important!

Yes.

But confusing you're and your is unforgivable and IANBU

Yes it’s very petty, and quite nasty as they don’t know who has dyslexia etc, just it gives some saddos a bit of a thrill