Streatham: isnt it awful that this is the new norm?

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Man with a knife stabs at least two people in a shop in Streatham, South London. Man shot dead by police.

Isnt it dreadful that this seems to be new norm - only 2 other people hurt, not much to see here, move along now?

Like the gun crime too - we just seem to accept it.

Makes me very sad.

I don’t know what you mean by ‘accept’.

Most people I know react out of defiance and community solidarity and take the view that we will not let it stop us going about our daily lives. That we will carry on. That we will see the deluge of media coverage but also remind ourselves that in terms of their being 16m people in London, these attacks are still rare and shocking.

Refusing to give in is not accepting.

I am now very angry that this man was released as a ticking time bomb to live so close to my home and my kids school. This is what I want the Gvt to address. Sort out a fit for purpose process for defusing these people, and making their release dependent on success.

Terrorists are not like other criminals. Prison isn’t a revolving door because they fully intend to end up dead and ‘martyred’. They will not be deterred by punishment because they are ideologically driven not behaviour driven. The whole prison term tariff system is meaningless. They are dangerous for as long as they are dangerous.

The new norm is lack of policemen.

I am now very angry that this man was released as a ticking time bomb to live so close to my home and my kids school. This is what I want the Gvt to address. Sort out a fit for purpose process for defusing these people, and making their release dependent on success.

Complete agree with this. Whilst it was good they had the sense to have him watched im pissed he was put in my community so close to schools.

The law hasn't really caught up with this kind of activity though is the issue I think. First off they went hell for leather and locked up everyone indefinitely which fell foul of loads of safeguards re state power, now having been prevented from doing this they seem to have just defaulted to the regular model because there's no alternative. Which is a pretty piss poor show whatever your stance given that they've had close to twenty years to figure out how to legislate for dormants etc.

Actually scrub that not just twenty years but twenty five years ie quarter of a century ago our first wave of UK terrorists went from Bosnia onwards to mujjahadin activity. And still we haven't got a method of effective curtailment.

Sudesh Amman said 'I've changed my mind about ISIS' and the parole board gave him a key.

Poor police, poor us.

UK seems to be a disaster zone now. Sorry for the late post but I cannot seem to sleep, but will eventually.

Anyway, we have Brexshit
We have convicted terrorists released and then have police and special forces following them
We have knife crime of a non Terrorist variety
We have grooming gangs
We have, oh heck, everything that most law abiding citizens balk at.

And then we have Johnson who couldn't give a fig about anything or anyone but himself.

Sad times for UK now. Depends where you live though and how much money is given to police, anti terrorist squads, ambulance and first responders, hospitals. You get the picture.

I think if it is not on your doorstep you might not care, but I know many do anyway.

Not looking good.

All over the news. Headlines in papers, so hardly normal.

And then we have Johnson who couldn't give a fig about anything or anyone but himself.
And Sadiq Khan as mayor.

The Mayor’s police force had to pick this up when the government’s justice system sent an active terrorist on to the streets. The Mayor’s Met shot the man down before he stabbed more people.

The Mayor has no power to keep terrorists locked up.

No but he has a lot of power over the police.

But my point wasn't about the issue of keeping terrorists locked up. I was likening him to Boris Johnson, both vile men imo.