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Training up colleague who earns more than me

61 replies

BIankets · 01/02/2020 11:12

I’m a NHS employee at one of the lower points of my pay band, in a specialist role. A new starter has the same job title as me although has very limited experience. He has come from another organisation and was the same band as me at that organisation, doing an entirely different (irrelevant) role. He has moved to my organisation to do this specialist role which he has absolutely no experience of (not a problem at all - it’s very much a case of learning on the job, which is what I did). He is at the top of this pay band; earning £5k more than me. I am expected to directly train him. I know this is how pay bands work and I know my manager can’t decrease his pay or up mine, but AIBU for being annoyed at having to be responsible for training up someone who earns more than me?

OP posts:
katy1213 · 02/02/2020 01:54

I don't think I'd be putting much enthusiasm into training him!

aurynne · 02/02/2020 02:26

So you'd only help someone who earned less than you, so you could feel better?

Sorry but I don't understand this. Why are some people so invested in what others earn? it's not like the difference is massive, it's just $5000/year.

CJsGoldfish · 02/02/2020 03:16

I don't think I'd be putting much enthusiasm into training him!

So, after reading the very detailed explanation on how this situation happens, can you explain why you wouldn't want to help a colleague in this way?
Does this apply if you change positions and need to be trained by someone below you? Would you demand to be trained by someone 'above' you?

I don't get it.

Shadyshadow · 02/02/2020 07:40

Essentially this comes down to the fact he has been band 5 linger, there is paid further up thr band 5 pay scale.

So it's actually not nothing to do with experience in the current role, his sex, how good he is at networking.

Every starts at the bottom of a band and automatically get pay rises until they get to the top.

Yabu. Your pay isnt a reflection of how experienced you are

If you work in the NHS, you know pay works like this and you resent training him, yabu.

To the poster that said they wouldnt be putting too much enthusiasm into training him. It's the NHS, who suffers if his training is bad. Who suffers if he complains his training hasnt been great ot that ops attitude makes him uncomfortable.

SnuggyBuggy · 02/02/2020 07:53

I'll raise you having to train someone a band higher than me because it was such a small office there was no one else to do it. Really its this persons line manager who should be overseeing his training but that doesn't always happen.

Mistigri · 02/02/2020 07:54

There's a distinction here between passing on information about working practices in your organisation (which is fine and expected of any employee) and "training" ie equipping him with the skills to do the job.

The latter isn't fine because he should already have those skills, and if he doesn't, then it's not your job to compensate for poor recruitment practices. If you are not a manager and you don't have an explicit training role, it is not your responsibility to ensure that other employees have the skillset required to do their jobs. That's up to managers and HR.

Quite apart from anything else, who takes responsibility if you train him wrongly and he fucks up as a result?

gamerwidow · 02/02/2020 09:34

I feel sorry for this man who was probably really excited to get a new job only to come into the role and be treated with resentment by his co-workers. I’ve been here and it’s really unpleasant.

maddening · 02/02/2020 09:37

Is it not due to tenure, if he has been there for years then he would have had pay rises?

DaveGrohlsMuse · 02/02/2020 11:55

@katmandoo what do you mean by "off the banding"?

CalamityJune · 02/02/2020 12:07

It's not his fault and i think it's a crap attitude. He has taken a sideways move and has been deemed capable of it. He will have other skills and experience from his previous role. In most new jobs unless they are very similar, there will always need to be a learning curve.

As others have said, far fewer people would ever move if it meant taking a pay cut of thousands to do it. There's nothing to stop the OP doing similar if an opportunity arose that she wanted to take.

SnuggyBuggy · 03/02/2020 08:34

I also think the problem with training up someone who is either at the same level or above you is it can set the wrong tone in the working relationship. You can find yourself being treated like you are senior to the new person when you are not.

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