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Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 16:43

Slightly inspired by another thread. I'm a mum to dd (4) and ds (3.) I have just started having no childcare costs as I work Monday to Friday school hours only ( I work school holidays also.) I work 30 hours but pick the kids up at 3 three days a week. I realise this is a luxury as most working parents have to use breakfast clubs and after school clubs. I also have the added bonus of a five minute walk between school and work.
It's ok at the moment but we're just about managing. DP and I bring home about £28,000 p.a. We don't receive anything apart from child benefit. Trouble is there's no extra money for anything else. We need to do things to the house (our bath leaked last year and we haven't had any money to replace the flooring with new vinyl tiles, or replace the bath panel!) and I've booked a two night trip to see my cousin in London which I have no idea how I'm going to find money for next month. That's not even a week in the sun, just a quick half term trip on the mega bus! Then what if something goes wrong, we have no spare money to save, I feel it's all a bit precarious.
I'm also so so so bored in my job. It's an entry level admin job and I find myself getting involved with things that aren't in my job description and quietly getting told to stay in my lane. I work in adult social care and dream of being a social worker. I don't think we could afford for me to study part time via O.U. I've got an interview for a paid masters in Social work through my workplace and I'm excited but nervous. The scheme obviously isn't aimed at parents as it involves a six week residential stay (which I have no idea how I would do as a parent) and an intense year long placement which involves working full time and then studying for 25 hours outside of that. It sounds great but I'm also so nervous.
After that there's the actual social work career which is very full on and would impact on my children's lives. Sometimes I think about how different our lives would be if I worked full time. Coming home, feeding them something quickly and then homework and bed. This afternoon I picked them up and we came home and drew and listened to David Bowie for an hour. Then I made tea at a leisurely pace ready for a friend to come round. I used to work full time when they were smaller and everything felt so rushed, but we did have amazing holidays and days out.
I feel torn between thinking that we should be grateful that we have a house and don't struggle to put food on the table (partly because I'm very frugal and get the yellow stickers at 8pm every night!) and feeling like I should be doing more with my brain and for our families well being. Even looking at better paid, more varied admin roles mean going full time or working further away which would take me longer to get home. Should I just wait till they're a bit older.
DP is pretty certain that we should keep things the way they are. He has no idea about our £5K debt which was used for petrol, nursery fees and emergency Greggs when we were caught without snacks over the summer. He also has social anxiety and no ambition to better our finances. His solution is just for us to spend less (and be miserable) I also think as he is out the house 12 hours six days a week, the lack of money affects him less.

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KellyHall · 24/01/2020 16:49

Why don't you get a temp job in evenings/weekends to see if you'd cope with extra hours without committing to a permanent change? I studied while working and it's like having a second job.

Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 16:53

@KellyHall my dp works weekends and you can't find anyone to have your kids on a Saturday or Sunday. I don't think it would help financially as I'd have to pay more in childcare. If I were studying I'd just stay at late at night and could do it in my pjs.

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Oksunny · 24/01/2020 17:00

Feel for you OP, I’m in a sort of similar position. I’m a SAHM to 2 under 3 ‘& we survive on DPs wage but nothing left for holidays etc & we rent.

Torn between getting a job to better our financial situation or be there for my kids when they’re little.

It’s not an easy decision to make & is different for every family.

Is this an opportunity that might arise again when they’re a little older? It’s a struggle many parents have to face & is very difficult. Good luck what ever you decide.

Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 17:02

@Oksunny do you feel terrible sometimes for not feeling happier when you're with them? I do all the time. We have moments of joy, which are great, and then other times I choose to walk to the shop in the pouring rain when dp gets home just to have a break!
Thanks for understanding x

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katsucurry · 24/01/2020 17:03

If you're only earning £28k (as a household) and have two children you should be entitled to more than just child benefit. I'm not sure about Universal Credit now but I'd imagine the thresholds are similar, but in the old Tax Credits system a household income of under approx. £33k would entitle you to claim something. So it's worth looking into on a benefits calculator.

Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 17:05

@katsucurry no we lost in this summer, I appealed and everything but we don't get even a percentage of childcare costs now.

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Swimtobreathe · 24/01/2020 17:16

Op, if you can find any options to do the social work masters then go for it. Yes the jobs can be tough, but adult social work is usually a bit more manageable re the hours, and believe it or not there are jobs in children's social work that aren't always frantic (fostering social worker for example). But the key difference for social work compared to most social care jobs is the pay. I could work part time (18.5hrs) in my job and still earn more then I did as a support worker. Despite it being a tough job, there's a reason the profession is majority female and often with kids at home - because once you're in it, there's ways to make it work.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 24/01/2020 17:20

With debt already and two children to support, studying would be the last thing on my mind as it comes with more debts.

I would be looking to work more though. At those ages they won’t know much difference but as they get a little older they will compare to their friends over what they have, hobbies etc.

Softpebbles · 24/01/2020 17:21

I don’t understand why your joint income is only 28k if he is working full time, 6 days a week, and you are working 30 hours?

Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 17:22

@Swimtobreathe thank you. I really want to go into mental health social care, as it's the area I work in already. Something in forensic or LD would be my ideal job.
I've applied to the Think Ahead programme so hopefully I'll be successful. Then I can worry about the logistics!

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Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 17:24

@Softpebbles because we both earn £9 p.h?

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Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 17:25

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss my masters would be funded by my employer or a charitable enterprise.

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Helpme1010 · 24/01/2020 17:25

Do you mean 28,000 after tax...

glitterbiscuits · 24/01/2020 17:26

It's sounds like a good opportunity that may not come up again.
Short term pain long term gain?

Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 17:27

Yes and pension contributions.

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Swimtobreathe · 24/01/2020 17:29

@icecreamandcandyfloss training in social work doesn't usually carry the same debts as most study does. It's a bit like how nursing training used to be, fees can be covered with certain training schemes as well as receiving a small income to train (not all options, but there are some)

Op I have a few friends who have moved into MH or LD social work after having families and they seem happy with it. The other thing to consider is that if it doesn't suit you for any reason, the qualification can open other doors (eg I've known people take on senior support worker roles, hostel/supported living management or roles with MIND which pay less than social work but are a different pace)

Helpme1010 · 24/01/2020 17:33

That will explain the confusion. I get what you’re feeling, having young kids is usually the most expensive time of your life with childcare etc... your job fits around your kids which is amazing! While they are so little I’d keep it as it is for good work/family balance. Your kids will soon be older and not only can you work more/earn more but also have more for yourself :) be happy with what you have and not what you could have. ( not being judgey, actually taking my own advice ss I write this) 😂 if you can afford your bills, feed and clothe your kids and have the odd luxury whilst still having time with your kids I’d say your winning

AwkwardPaws27 · 24/01/2020 17:34

DP is pretty certain that we should keep things the way they are. He has no idea about our £5K debt which was used for petrol, nursery fees and emergency Greggs when we were caught without snacks over the summer.

This worries me - you are a family, a team. You shouldn't be shouldering the worry of a debt on your own and he shouldn't be kept in the dark about debt. You need to tell him. Is there a plan in place to pay it off?

You clearly enjoy the time with your children, and the training sounds like a big commitment. Retraining could still be an option in future if you don't feel ready yet.

Could you look for you or your DP to pick up another part-time job in the short-term? Then you could clear the debt and do the repairs?

WifOfBif · 24/01/2020 17:36

Do the masters if you can.

I work in social care and I agree with a PP that once you’re in the door there can be a lot of flexibility. I work with LAC social workers and many of them work either three or four days a week.

Tealnotbluemum · 24/01/2020 17:43

@WifOfBif thank you that's really good to know. It's what I wanted to do since I was 15 but annoyingly I was swayed by what my cool goth mates were doing and studied English Literature. In all honesty though, I think I'm in a much better place to be a social worker now, as I've got experience of working in social care/mental health and have a lot of personal experience of how it can affect everything.

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WifOfBif · 24/01/2020 17:46

I wish you nothing but luck with it, I’m sure you’ll be amazing at it!

Northernsoullover · 24/01/2020 17:53

I think you should do the study. Its horrible penny pinching every month and heaven forbid anything happen to your husband or you split.
I'm a lone parent and I am doing a degree and yes I do my assignments in the evening in my pyjamas. Its also really challenging but I have my eye on the prize and can't wait to start earning some decent money.

Sharkyfan · 24/01/2020 17:54

Do the social work qualification if you at all can.
I am qualified adult sw and work school hours 4 days pw term time only.
I know not everyone is so lucky with their employer but many local authorities/trusts are good about flexible working. So the initial training period full time would be really tough but long term there is the opportunity to earn a lot more and still have time with your kids.
Plus they are crying out for good social workers who really know what they are getting into and I know some great ones who started off as admin.
Or if you can’t quite do the course do they have unqualified social workers or social work assistants in your team? That could be a good route too.

Mummyshark2018 · 24/01/2020 18:27

My dsis is in her last year of social work training with 2 kids and a dh who earns about 18k ft. She gets a bit of a bursary but it's been a struggle with money. my parents have helped out a lot, as have I. She wouldn't have been able to do it without family support as my dp's pick up her youngest from school and keep them until her dh picks them up. They Also have been lucky enough to borrow a car as her current placement involves travelling all around a rural area. Her dh needs their car for his work. She's in the last leg now but it's been very tough and she can't wait to qualify!

Do it though , it will be worth it in the long run. Good luck!

Softpebbles · 24/01/2020 18:51

sorry it just seemed low when one is working 6 days a week and you 30 hours. Seems very unfair. Doing the course sounds like it would be a fabulous opportunity for you.

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