To think Morrisons will go to shit?

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51223217

Morrisons plan to make 3000 in-store managers redundant, but they can have "new" jobs at lower wages.

AIBU to think that the "new" jobs will include a lot of the same duties that were previously part of the now-supposedly-redundant management roles? That Morrisons will essentially be asking its staff to do the same work for lower status and pay? And that the staff aren't stupid and this is bound to piss them off big time?

Any Morrisons workers here?

Wow. I always thought it was posts that got made redundant and not people, so is it even legal to transfer the responsibilities? (Depressingly, I realise it probably is, as Morrison’s will have taken advice).

As a strategy, it’s not going to make people want to shop there.

My brother is one of the managers affected. Was sent a screenshot of the announcement as he was not in the office. Completely blind-sided by it all.
They've threatened him/other managers with redundancy every couple of years, but then nothing comes of it. I think this time is different though.

They are a horrible company to work for - my opinion based on my brothers experience! I switched my allegiance to Asda long ago.

Do all supermarkets have section managers?

Because if the work can be done by the overall store manager and deputy then I can kind of see why they’re trying to save money by getting rid of the bakery manager, deli manager, etc.

It depends how good their managers are.

If they sacked the managers where I work things would run much more smoothly; all they seem to do currently is gossip about people, backstab and think of ways to make life more difficult for everyone, for no reason.

I might start shopping at Morrisons to see if things go downhill or uphill.

B&Q did this to us a few years ago. I took my money and left, horrible way to treat people.

That is horrible.

What a way to treat your staff

The link says there will 4000 new jobs, in customer service in specialist roles like the deli counters. Different strategy to the other supermarkets.

It looks they’re rehauling how the shops are staffed and run entirely.

It could be a good thing. Not for the people who lose their jobs but for the work force who remain.

@SleepsleepsleepImissyou I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. You do realise Asda treat their workers like absolute sh*t too?!

"It could be a good thing. Not for the people who lose their jobs but for the work force who remain."

they'll probably just have a boat load more work to do.

AIBU to think that the "new" jobs will include a lot of the same duties that were previously part of the now-supposedly-redundant management roles?

I think you're spot on. That's all companies generally want to do - find ways to pay people less for doing the same thing.

Sainsbury’s did it a couple of years ago

It's just getting rid of a middle management layer. Horrible for those affected but nothing a lot of businesses, councils, organisations haven't already done.

Times are tough. Cut costs or go under. They're trying to compete with the likes of aldi who don't have bakery managers.

Restructuring their business in order to compete.

They’re already shit, and they don’t need that many managers. They need staff out on the floor serving and replenishing stock. It’s a no brained. Why would a company spend more on staff than it needed to?

Don’t know why you’d change to Asda. The Walmart family treat their staff like shit and always have done.

While I voted YANBU as I think they'll lay the managers on presumably ok contracts off and hire staff on sitty zero or 8 hour a week nmw contracts, I also know that it probably makes sense in order to compete.

If I thought they'd create a new 7000 permanent decently paid full time roles I'd be voting YABU instead iykwim.

Lay mangers off

A lot of businesses do this, it’s how they stay sustainable in the long run.

DH worked for Sainsbury's 20 years ago as a manager with a trade (bakery). They made him and the other specialist managers (butchers and fishmongers) redundant. A year later they were hiring again as they had finally realised that these jobs couldn't be done by staff recruited from the shop floor. It takes 5 years to become a Master Baker.

The managers who remain will have salaries that reflect the work they are already doing, currently they do not. Colleagues won’t have additional tasks, there will just be more of them to serve customers. They will actually have fewer tasks as currently there are not enough of them and they are too thinly stretched.

Ikea have form for this too. I agree it's a shitty way to treat your employees.

Sorry, meant to add that it won't stop people from shopping at these places though, unfortunately.

Colleagues won’t have additional tasks, there will just be more of them to serve customers. They will actually have fewer tasks as currently there are not enough of them and they are too thinly stretched.

I’m sorry, but I doubt it will play out like that. Although I’m sure it’s what the consultation says...

They certainly need more shop floor staff. I was in there at 7pm last night. All the checkouts were closed bar the self service ones and the only person monitoring those was also serving on the cigarette counter. There are eight self service tills at at one point five of us were stuck and waiting for her to come and sort out the tills for us.

Hopefully it will result in better customer service but it's a terrible way to treat staff. BIL is a manager for them so just waiting to find out if he is going to be affected.