To think that the C of E church should not take a step back in time

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So the bishops have made a statement that sex belongs only in a heterosexual marriage not in a gay relationship, marriage or otherwise , not in a civil partnership and not outside marriage. WTF
In an age where many have turned their back on religion aibu to think that they will alienate even more people
IMO the c of e used to be a broad welcoming church: it has become more and more conservative and evangelical in the last 10 years I don’t recognise it anymore.

Yes, and they also say that adulterous relationships are less valid, that polygamous ones are less valid, and so on. Again, if you agree then no problem, if not then they should only be speaking for themselves and not making declarations about humans in general.

But they're not. They're speaking as the state religion with positions in the house of lords. Some of them wanted to keep same sex marriage illegal. For everyone.

I once saw a documentary about a man who married a horse. She didn't seem particularly harmed. As he pointed out, if she was bothered by what he was doing she could quite easily let him know.

How about if the horse didn't like what she was doing ?

Ooops, speed read and write fail

Asked and answered !

A horse can't actually consent though. An adult of the same sex can.

I have reported JAPABs post because it is so disgusting

Majority of LGBT are atheist, so why does it matter what the C of E think?

Many religions don't agree with it, they have set rules and the people want to follow these rules to the best of their ability.

Majority of LGBT are atheist, so why does it matter what the C of E think?.

They're the state religion. And there are gay Christians, and gay children/teens so whose parents might tell them it's wrong to be gay.

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/04/c-of-e-sex-guidance-row-synod-member-calls-out-deep-hypocrisy

In an explosive speech on Monday, Jayne Ozanne, a member of the General Synod and a leading campaigner for LGBT+ equality, called out “the deep levels of hypocrisy that exist among certain church leaders”.

Speaking to the William Temple Association in Bournemouth, she said: “We have leaders who are married and have affairs. We have leaders who make unwanted passes and comments to those they work with and whom they pastor.

“We have leaders who are gay but won’t admit it– who then have sex with someone of the same sex – and then chastise those who work for them, who are in openly gay relationships, for doing the same."

@Chickenblc

This is why celibate homosexuals are not prohibited where active homosexuals are.

Well that's okay then. 🤨 So long as your not an "active homosexual"

Yeah, it's fine to be gay so long as you don't "act on it" according to some.

Although they're 'rethinking' it, which is something at least.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/church-of-england-to-rethink-sex-sexuality-marriage-and-gender-sb0hdt7xt

Zombie thread! what the heck are you up to, trhfxbtht? You seem to be trying to stir up something in quite a few discussions, now you are going back a year.

They article was from Tuesday and relates to the thread topic.

There has long been a tension in the Anglican Communion between the often more liberal western churches and the huge African churches where they are struggling with the effects of Aids including large numbers of children orphaned by Aids with no state support.

Of course, they are aware that Aids is also spread through heterosexual activity, but in the early days the spread was largely through homosexuality. It's not practical to try to outlaw sex between men and women, but through being anti-homosexual activity they are doing what they can to reduce its spread. They have very few other weapons against the disease; condoms, which have to be imported at great expense, degrade in the warm weather and there is resistance to using them. Drugs are generally out of their reach both physically and financially.

So you're saying that countries make homosexuality illegal to stop the spread of aids? Never mind the fact that relationships between women are often also illegal, and that these laws have existed before HIV was even known about.

@amicissimma

There has long been a tension in the Anglican Communion between the often more liberal western churches and the huge African churches where they are struggling with the effects of Aids including large numbers of children orphaned by Aids with no state support.

Of course, they are aware that Aids is also spread through heterosexual activity, but in the early days the spread was largely through homosexuality. It's not practical to try to outlaw sex between men and women, but through being anti-homosexual activity they are doing what they can to reduce its spread. They have very few other weapons against the disease; condoms, which have to be imported at great expense, degrade in the warm weather and there is resistance to using them. Drugs are generally out of their reach both physically and financially.

Yeah, I don't think African churches preach against homosexuality because they're just trying to stop the spread of Aids.

www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Remember-Anglican-Church-is-pro-LGBTQ-Archbishop-of-Canterbury-to-Ghanaian-faithful-1389169

Justin Welby is a hypocrite. Condemning homophobia in other countries while upholding it in his own organisation.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/church-england-draft-pastoral-guidance-same-sex-couple-blessings-2023-07-08/

The Church of England are moving away from your backwards shit @vdbfamily

Organised religion is totally irrelevant so why even comment on it.

The church of England is the state religion. They have a history of campaigning to keep homophobic laws, and its still illegal for church of England vicars to marry same sex couples.

Of course it's relevant. the church of England have power and influence, and that they're moving in this direction shows that people like @vdbfamily are increasingly out of touch.