Laurence Fox is an ignorant, spoilt brat.

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What is wrong with this fool? Apparently in James Delingpole's podcast, heavy sigh, he criticises Sam Mendes for featuring a Sikh soldier in WW1 film. Ever heard of the British Empire, Laurence? How many Indians died for Britain? AIBU to say LF is being deliberately divisive and provocative and evidently doing his own publicity?

Also we are forgetting the war against the Nazis was going on in North Africa.

Again including lots of commonwealth soldiers.

So no not just the British fighting the Nazis

So no not just the British fighting the Nazis

No one anywhere has said it was just the British fighting the Nazis.
Blimey, please stop with the straw man

When you look at the Nationalities of the RAF officers murdered in the Great Escape, there was a lot of people from Allied countries.

You notice that I said non UK countries. As the stats show, many pilots from a range if non UK countries helped win the Battle of Britain

Although now I come to look, some people I know to have served in the South African Naval Forces in WWII were on ships provided by the Royal Navy and serving under the Union Jack – alongside crew mates from the Royal Canadian Navy.

I guess battleships are a rather larger capital expense than infantry or even aircraft...

Nope you said Britain stood alone, not a straw man.

Statistics do not always tell the full picture.

A few years ago an historian made the claim that during WW1 soldiers in Scottish regiments KIA were disproportionately higher than the rest of the UK and that this was proof that more Scottish soldiers were KIA by percent than from the rest of the UK, But what he didnt take into account, or bother to mention, was that many English soldiers had joined, or were moved into Scottish regiments as the war progressed.

This is partly why I also disagreed with LF's claim that there were no BAME soldiers in British regiments. As i said earlier, the numbers were small, but because they were British born, not commonwealth, they were there in British regiments .

I think the conclusion is that the Commonwealth stood with the UK at our time of need. Many people from these countries provided support to us in many ways. Our services had many people in from a range of countries.

That should be remembered and recognised whenever we think about what happened.

Nope you said Britain stood alone, not a straw man
Yes a straw man because what I actually said was that Britain as a nation fought alone against Germnay in the BoB. That some pilots were Polish or from wherever does not contradict that fact.
The BofB was between two nations

the statistics are from the numbers above, British pilots and Non Brits. Canadian Royal Airforce aslo flew under its own colours (albeit one squadroun)

I think the conclusion is that the Commonwealth stood with the UK at our time of need. Many people from these countries provided support to us in many ways. Our services had many people in from a range of countries.

That should be remembered and recognised whenever we think about what happened.

It is remembered and recognised and always had been

The stories are rarely told. How many people know the story about the WW2 and India and Burma beyond the Bridge on the River Kwai. There was a massive campaign there but hardly told compared to the war in Europe.

I genuinely don't understand the need for some people to promote a "Britain stood alone" trope.

It's hardly shameful to have had other resources and allies.

And this trope encourages a sort of false accounting, where we don't make an accurate assessment of Britain's capabilities because we're basing it on a false story about the past.

Why on earth would we want to do that? We have quite enough to be proud of without deceiving ourselves, and wildly overestimating our capabilities is dangerous for the future.

The trope also leads to eejits like the BNP making even themselves look even more foolish than usual...

BNP uses Polish Spitfire in anti-immigration poster
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/4935429/BNP-uses-Polish-Spitfire-in-anti-immigration-poster.html

No you said the "only other allied country fighting Germany at this time was Greece".

Not true. North Africa was happening at the same time, and all the commonwealth countries were involved in the conflict, as well as the support of the UK.

But even then the Canadian Royal Airforce flew under its own colours in the BoB, there were squadrons of other nations pilots.

The myth of Britain standing alone is just that.

Why do people argue against things that have not been said?

Why do people argue against things that have not been said?
Exactly and I have no idea why they do either

The British Army was full of Irishmen, from a country that was definitely not at war with Germany.

Because you change what you said as time goes on.

I can't quote as am on the phone. Otherwise I would be quoting the things that have been said.
Facts.

The Commonwealth did declare war on Germany.
The RAF consisted of many pilots who were not just from the UK.

Some people on here have minimised that.

Some people on here have minimised that

Can’t say that’s what I see here.

Commonwealth troops did not automatically serve with the british army and Canada, South Africa Australia etc declared war seperately from Britain.

Claiming that there were a small number of Allied pilots in the Battle of Britain. Yet there were 20%.
Claiming other countries didn't declare war on Germany when in fact the British Empire did along with other countries.
Pretty minimising

“In 1939, Australia had not ratified the 1931 Westminster Statute, and so lacked an independent foreign policy. Menzies recognised this by saying in 1939, that as Britain was at war with Germany, so Australia was at war with Germany.”

I wonder how many people on here know about the war outside of Europe. It was a world war affecting a lot of the Empire.

Australia has been a sovereign nation in its own right since 1901. Stop making it up as you go along, Flax.