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60 in a 40mph area

167 replies

laco2425279 · 20/01/2020 14:21

I just need to know other peoples experiences!! I was driving home (I wouldn’t normally be speeding but my mind was elsewhere today!😔)
As I came round the bend I would’ve been doing about 58mph I think then I noticed the speed van and braked to 50 before realising it was a 40 and slammed my brakes on to 40.

I’m hoping it’s a 3 points and a fine and nothing more. But was hoping someone may have had something similar and just wondered what your outcome was?

Thank you! X

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Lizzie0869 · 20/01/2020 17:13

I agree, Dabrani, it was bad. But thankfully there wasn't an accident and no one was hurt. If something bad had happened, then the OP would have had to face the consequences, rightly so. And the OP knows this, so lecturing her isn't necessary.

A lot of people do things like this and wouldn't feel bad about it.

Hingeandbracket · 20/01/2020 17:20

OP I have been past speed camera vans at incorrect speeds a couple of times and not had the ticket I expected at all. I am obviously not going to lecture you, although I am not advocating speeding. I have a clean licence.

Lizzie0869 · 20/01/2020 17:22

IMO, OP, just remember that what you did was extremely dangerous, but be grateful that nothing bad happened. Take whatever penalty is imposed and move on from it.

Then move on and come to terms with what happened through therapy. And probably best to hide the thread. There will be angry people on here, as a lot of people have lost loved ones as a result of speeding. The other driver who ploughed into my FIL was not in the wrong as my FIL pulled out without checking but if he had been driving a bit slower then my FIL would still be here. (He may not have been speeding but it was round a corner with parked cars so he should have been going more slowly. So my MIL would have very sharp words for you.

It wasn't a good idea to post this thread really, there were always going to be harsh responses.

Biancadelrioisback · 20/01/2020 17:25

Can we dial back the drama a bit?
Yes OP could have hit someone. Yes OP could have hurt or killed someone. Yes OP could have made it someone else's tragedy. Yes a number of other things could have happened.
But they didn't, did they.
OP didn't hit anyone, didn't hurt anyone, didn't hit anything, didn't kill anyone. And, as anyone who has actually been caught speeding will tell you, it does shit you up and often people don't do it again. I was caught speeding, doing 35 in a 30. I am so much more aware since then that I would say I am now a safer driver. OP just wanted to understand what might happen as a result of what she did. She's going through a shit time and made a bad mistake, she will receive a fine or a course, whatever the police decide. That is her punishment. Don't twist the fucking knife.

Shopkinsdoll · 20/01/2020 17:29

I don’t know where you stay but where I do the majority of speeders and tailgaters are arrogant, aggressive or just down right stupid!
Sorry for your miscarriage but hopefully you’ll be a bit more careful on the road.

BlouseAndSkirt · 20/01/2020 17:31

OP, I have on a few occasions been dreading the post for a few days after coming across doors vans in lay byes on dual carriageways and other places.

Never actually been done.

(But it’s does act as a string reminder).

Sorry about your sad news.

This is why we need company and support for things like difficult appointments. Never be embarrassed to ask for help.Flowers

fuckitywhy · 20/01/2020 17:31

Lulualla, that must have been awful, but you don't need to keep going on and on. New posters don't need to keep chipping in with insults. Those points were made very very early in the thread.

Whipping the OP over and over again accomplishes nothing. It won't change what happened to you, it won't alter what she thinks from now on, it just makes you all look like you're piling on for no reason.

Yy to "dial back the drama" too.

Lizzie0869 · 20/01/2020 17:35

@Biancadelrioisback quite. If I can respond without being judgemental, after the way my FIL's death in a car accident destroyed my DH's family, at a time when my DSis was coming out of an abusive marriage, I'm sure others can.

Some people love to tell people how wonderfully law abiding they are, and how awfully unreasonable other people are. Just leave the OP alone. No one was hurt. Leave her alone and let her come to terms with her miscarriage.

thecatwiththesilveryfur · 20/01/2020 17:35

OP, I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you have someone kind with you tonight. Flowers

DowntownAbby · 20/01/2020 17:37

Serious Speeding Offences – Normally defined as 20 mph or more over the speed limit. Usually leads to a Court summons & prosecution.

No. There is a scale and that is not how the scale works at all.

And you most definitely won't receive a summons as that's not how it works these days. The summons is from times gone by. The SJPN replaced it.

Also you will NEVER receive an SJPN for 20mph over the limit in a 40mph.

Police are required to lodge the summons with the Court within 6 months, but this does not mean that if you don’t hear from them within six months that you have escaped prosecution.

No. They have 14 days to serve a NIP/Section 172 Request. 6 months is completely irrelevant until that has been served.

In the most serious cases involving very high speeds you can receive a custodial sentence

No, you cannot be jailed for speeding in England (or Wales).

VenusClapTrap · 20/01/2020 17:39

I had to go to court and ended up with six points when I was clocked doing 26mph over the limit. I was young and I’m glad they did that because I deserved it and it properly slowed me down.

It sounds like you’ll be in the 3 points bracket as you were slowing down.

nespressowoo · 20/01/2020 17:40

I've done 45mph in a 30mph at 3am... I got a fine and 3 points.

spongejack · 20/01/2020 17:56

@Tara336 totally ridiculous and no comparison at all! Hence one mile over the limit (except in wales) you won't be ordered secured and 40 mikes over you'll be charged with RECKLESS driving!

Your being totally ridiculous with your non comparison!

spongejack · 20/01/2020 17:57

Ordered secured Confused won't be prosecuted

WonderWebbs · 20/01/2020 18:04

@laco2425279 I see another poster has added a link that suggests it will be 3 points and a fine. I'm sorry about your distressing news but even if you thought you were in a 50mph zone you still would have been caught speeding at 58mph.

I volunteer for Speedwatch, as we have too many idiots speeding through my village. Highest was 51mph in a 30mph zone this morning! We record all vehicles at 10% + 2mph over the speed limit. So 35mph in a 30mph zone and 46mph in a 40mph zone. If you have been caught by Speedwatch it will be advisory, records are given to the police, and letters issued from the Police only. If you have been caught by a Police unit then a fine is probably on its way.

Can I just add that I know everyone is under pressure to get to work on time and to do the school drop off but if everyone just lowered their speed a bit it really would make a huge difference to pedestrians. Especially the secondary school children trying to cross our roads as they are often not streetwise or are plugged into their phones!

DuesToTheDirt · 20/01/2020 18:13

I got caught by police with a laser gun going into a village, where the speed limit goes down from 60 to 30. I didn't slow down soon enough and was doing about 40 when I passed them. Never heard anything further about it!

So you never know.

easyandy101 · 20/01/2020 18:36

I've got away with worse

Try not to fret, hopefully it'll come to nothing

Crappynewyear2020 · 20/01/2020 18:58

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LakieLady · 20/01/2020 19:01

you only ever lose your licence if you are caught doing over 100mph (immediate ban)

My mate's husband managed to avoid a ban when he was caught doing 110mph on a dual carriageway. He got a solicitor who represented him in court who made a big plea of mitigation about how it was an uncharacteristic bit of recklessness and that he'd got carried away on a new motorbike, not yet fully appreciating its powerful acceleration, how he needed his licence for his job and would get fired if he couldn't drive, son with special needs who needed frequent trips to A&E (son was 17 at the time, his special needs are ADHD and dyslexia and his frequent trips to A&E are because he's reckless and does dangerous things), yada, yada, yada ...

The jammy git got away with 6 points and a big fat fine. And he already had 3 points on his licence. My mate was furious, in her words "He drives like a dick and fucking deserves a ban".

She made him sell the motorbike though.

LochJessMonster · 20/01/2020 19:21

@Crappynewyear2020 Yes because when someone has just found out their baby has died, they always act with a clear head.

Op knows she made a mistake, she had pretty terrible news and lost concentration for a moment. She’s asking for practical advice on the consequences.

laco2425279 · 20/01/2020 19:57

Some of the comments I’m really not getting. I have never once said I want to find out how to get away with it nor have I tried to excuse it. I only created this account after finding a similar thread in the AIBU area so thought it would be a good place to find advice. Obvs not. I have never once said I don’t take responsibility for my actions.

Some people have clearly twisted words as well when I said you weren’t decent people not because I didn’t agree with you but because nothing you put was relevant.
I fully understand my actions and know I shouldn’t have been speeding but I did so I wanted to know what other people got in similar situations. Not justifying it but I’ll be honest it was a clear road and I’d be very surprised if anyone was walking in the dual carriageway! Many people speed along that road as it just comes out of the 50 and about to go into a 60...

All that aside, remember how you have spoken to me when you are driving your familiar route thinking about something else and suddenly realise you aren’t fully paying attention...it happens to everyone at some point! Some people are clearly horrible people inside and would hate for you to ever experience anything awful to then be put down some more. I’ll be deactivating this account as I MN isn’t what I expected it to be...

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laco2425279 · 20/01/2020 19:58

Thank you to those people that have replied with answers to what I asked and to those that have passed kind messages xx

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BrusselPout · 20/01/2020 20:44

OP, I'm so sorry for your loss and it is really easy to make a mistake - there is absolutely no reason for the holier than thou gang to hang, draw and quarter you like they seem intent on doing, you'll probably get points and a fine (assuming it was a speed camera van and not ANPR etc) but whatever happens just take it as a learning experience, if you are upset and distracted in future maybe look at another way of getting home x

Hopex3 · 20/01/2020 21:00

OP this seems to happen on these threads a lot. I've actually had people troll my old threads aswell after I posted on here so please pay no mind to it. some on here just see it as an area to tear people a new one. look after yourself. it will get better xx

agonyauntie2020 · 20/01/2020 21:27

Op I am so so so sorry. If you are still reading this thread (and I wouldn't blame you if you weren't) here are a few thoughts:

  • You've posted your reasons for doing it and that you'll never do it again. PP saying they are glad you got caught are being heartless in my opinion - you've had a shitty, shitty time and day and event and you've posted asking about people's experiences, that's all.

  • It's vaguely possible you might get nothing in the post. Sometimes errors registers, sometimes machines aren't calibrated etc. Also, it seems to be the case that they under rather than over-report the speed you were doing in case you decide to have a solicitor and challenge the accuracy of their equipment in court. I think it's quite likely you'll get a speed awareness course, especially as they were parked where a 50 goes down to a 40, because they know they will catch people doing more than 50 and those people, who already have points or whatever, are more likely to get legal help and appeal. They want to avoid that, and people don't usually appeal a speed awareness class and 3 points.

*you know this already, but even the experience of seeing the van, on such a horribly emotional day for you, will stay with you for a long time and make you a safer driver.

Cut yourself some slack OP and don't worry too much about this if you can help it. Good luck with the next pregnancy too.

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