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60 in a 40mph area

167 replies

laco2425279 · 20/01/2020 14:21

I just need to know other peoples experiences!! I was driving home (I wouldn’t normally be speeding but my mind was elsewhere today!😔)
As I came round the bend I would’ve been doing about 58mph I think then I noticed the speed van and braked to 50 before realising it was a 40 and slammed my brakes on to 40.

I’m hoping it’s a 3 points and a fine and nothing more. But was hoping someone may have had something similar and just wondered what your outcome was?

Thank you! X

OP posts:
Freezingold · 20/01/2020 15:30

No - she was hoping for only 3 points and nothing more and also excusing the speeding with a reason. She was concerned about the amount of punishment.

I know OP is in a delicate state. It’s just that some of us, me included, have had loved ones hurt by speeding drivers. So it is worrying to enable speeding with excuses. However I am mindful OP is having an awful day which is why I for one don’t want to be horrible but that doesn’t take away or excuse.

Take care of yourself OP. But take the fine.

seltaeb · 20/01/2020 15:31

These are the sentencing guidelines if it goes to court:

www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/speeding-revised-2017/

The police usually only offer speed awareness courses for speeds not too much over the limit, so it depends on what speed was recorded.

Similarly the fine depends on the speed recorded, as shown in the guideline. Band A fine is 50% of weekly income, band B is 100%. Points also depend on speed recorded. If it goes to court and you plead guilty at first opportunity the fine is reduced by one third. In addition a victim surcharge is added (£32 or 10% of fine whichever is greater) and prosecution costs, typically £85 in my area.

Make sure that you respond to any letter asking for driver identity as not responding is also an offence. It may take some time for this to arrive.

Sorry for your loss. Ignore posts implying you are a dangerous criminal, you made a mistake and will no doubt learn from it. Be careful to check speed limits in future and move on with your life.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 20/01/2020 15:33

I’ve literally just found out that I have miscarried. I know I should’ve been 100% focussed on the road but I wasn’t, I was crying and a wreck, if you can say you’ve never once had your mind somewhere else then you must be perfect!

With respect - you should not have been behind the wheel. And you know it.

Your tragedy could also have become someone else's had you had an accident.

Lulualla · 20/01/2020 15:36

You shouldn't have been driving. It's not like in movies where you can jump in a car and speed around because you're upset. If you had hit a child, do you think facing their parents would have been easy because you had an excuse to be upset? A few miles over the limit, fine. But you were driving 20miles over the limit and admit that you just weren't paying attention to the road. No matter what's going on in your life, there just isn't an excuse for that.

PicsInRed · 20/01/2020 15:37

Christ, empathy free zone, this.

Shame on the lot of you.

OP - 💐

Lulualla · 20/01/2020 15:41

@PicsInRed
A car is a 3 tonne weapon. If you're not paying attention then you shouldn't be in it. There is literally no excuse which is good enough to excuse what she did.

fuckitywhy · 20/01/2020 15:42

Pretty sure the OP gets it by now. No need to keep kicking her.

TryingToBeBold · 20/01/2020 15:43

Fucking Vipers
We all make fucking mistakes. Well most of us. Some of your are saintly church goers that do no wrong obviously.

OP made a mistake. And a mistake in judgement. She wasnt in a fit state to drive but there may have been no alternative so why don't we fucking lay off a bit.

OP from experience (yes I was caught speeding.. lay into me whilst you're all at it).. I'm going to say 3 points and £100 fine but it all depends on how fast you were actually caught at.
The RAC and fines were meant to be X percentage of your weekly wage but.. I havent heard anyone of receiving this kind of fine yet.
If the RAC website does say 3 points and a fine then I would go by that (ignoring the fine amount as stated above).

Flowers
mememe2019 · 20/01/2020 15:44

Sorry for your loss. Sounds to me like you are in Ireland. According to my sisters in Ireland there are is no option for a speeding course. I think you will get an automated fine and points.

Chloemol · 20/01/2020 15:45

At 50 plus you are likely to lose your licence. And harsh at it may seem I don’t care what your excuses is. If you are upset, which I appreciate you are, you should not have driven, end off. At that speed you could have killed someone

SchadenfreudePersonified · 20/01/2020 15:47

OP made a mistake. And a mistake in judgement. She wasnt in a fit state to drive but there may have been no alternative so why don't we fucking lay off a bit.

Would you be quite so blasé if OP had killed or crippled someone?

SHe'd complaining that she was caught speeding - in actual fact she has had a lucky escape - she, or someone else could be dead.

Take your punishment OP. Grieve for your baby - but accept that what you did was wrong and harmful, and take whatever punishment is handed out to you.

TheReef · 20/01/2020 15:48

Speeding threads never end well. Best case scenario will be a speed awareness course, most likely 3 points and a fine, worst case 6 points. But as you've a clean licence you won't end up losing it

Juliette20 · 20/01/2020 15:51

Flowers You probably we'ren't going quite as fast as you think. I got a speed awareness course when I was caught doing 48 in a 40- the speedometer said over 50 at the time (I was coming up to a dual carriageway national speed limit bit and put my foot down about 50 yards too early to overtake someone).

BushyPoo · 20/01/2020 15:52

not trying to justify what I have done

Yes you are.

Anybody that doesn't agree with you is apparently not decent. Wow.

Sorry for what happened, but for goodness sake take responsibility for your actions.

Calevlace · 20/01/2020 15:56

3 tonne weapon? Bloody hell what do you drive

potter5 · 20/01/2020 15:57

Wow, you've had some really awful people responding to you on here. They really are vitriollic and nasty. I am so sorry about your miscarriage.

In respect of your speeding, you can expect to be offered the speed awareness course if it is your first time caught speeding. You will also have to pay a fee, approx £77. You won't get points on your licence if you take this course. Usually only lasts the morning. If you don't take the course you can expect £100 fine and 3 points on your licence.

Janleverton · 20/01/2020 15:58

I was caught by speed gun doing 41 in a 30. By a very nice policeman, I admitted there was no excuse. At time had managed 30 years driving with no points or convictions. Was offered a speed awareness course which I actually found very good and thought provoking. I was expecting 3 points and fine because of the margin, so very relieved to be offered the course (which cost £95 I think).

So it really depends what speed you were clocked at. Bit of a waiting game when it’s a camera rather than a police officer - at least I knew right from the get go that I was banged to rights and to expect a letter. There is a set amount of time within which a notice of intended prosecution will have to be issued when caught by camera - whereas mine took about a bit longer but no time limit as I was fully aware that I had been caught.

Tinaarena · 20/01/2020 15:58

"Your one of those aggressive speeding drivers, see them everyday. You should be off the road! 😡😡 I can tell you now if a speeding driver ever ever hurt or god forbid anything worse to my children I would do time."

While I agree with this poster that if anybody hurt my child I would also do time - there is nowhere in the op that states she was driving aggressively at all so to jump to this conclusion baffles me, let alone find the time in the day to write this comment.

Op you know you were going over the speed limit - a lot of you all all such perfect saints if your mind has never wandered off whilst driving. I don't buy that for 1 second that your 100% focused the entire time, people do get lazy.

Nobody can tell you on this forum what will happen, as you pressed your breaks then the camera may. have got you at a lower speed than you originally thought, You will most likely get a speed awareness course though as funds are low and most forces don't have the budget to go after the bigger crooks let alone take someone to court over speeding 20mph over the limit.

with the course its not too bad, few hours and its done your license stays clean of points and theres no need to tell your insurer. if I remember it correctly its that or the fine and theres only a slight difference in the price so many choose the course.

Flowers for you today op. ive been through many mc's myself and know how youre already beating yourself up, don't do it over this too. nobody was hurt, you said sorry and realised what you're doing. you're only human.

Hopex3 · 20/01/2020 15:58

OP I would ask for this to be moved somewhere else. some of the people on these AIBU threads can be vile and they wont stop I'm afraid. you dont need to be reading some of these things when you know and admitted it was a mistake. sorry for your loss this happened to me last year and I honestly felt like life wasnt worth it at one point I was so sad/angry at the world as dramatic as that sounds so I know how much it fucks with your head x

Hopex3 · 20/01/2020 16:00

well end of 2018, forgetting its 2020. take care ❤

potter5 · 20/01/2020 16:00

PS - you only ever lose your licence if you are caught doing over 100mph (immediate ban) or you have accumulated more than 12 points on your licence. Neither applies to you so you will definitely NOT lose your licence like someone said before (who was talking out of her arse)!

Don't worry. Flowers

Janleverton · 20/01/2020 16:00

Please look at the link to sentencing guidelines - yo7 will only be offered a speed awareness course within the thresholds given (which looking at, I was, just). DH was caught by speed camera on A30 a year ago and was not offered the SAC despite never having had any points, because he was over the threshold for that offer (and was bloody lucky to get away with 3 points and a fine IMO).

Janleverton · 20/01/2020 16:02

You won’t lose your license for 50 in a 40. Or even up to 60 I reckon.

Janleverton · 20/01/2020 16:03

Downtonabby’s chart is very helpful.

DowntownAbby · 20/01/2020 16:03

@seltaeb it's not going to court, fgs, she doesn't need to be worrying about that as well!

OP would have to be have been doing over 66mph in a 40 to be in that territory.