Advice on inheritance disputes

[Ilovechinese]

Hi I'm just wondering if anyone on here has been to court to contest a will and if so how long did it take to get to court and what the process is. I'm going through this at the minute (well not got to court yet) but have a caveat in place to stop probate.

OP your children are going to be a lot more hurt by this if you bankrupt yourself.

@Oblahdeeoblahdoe yes that's exactly how I feel I'm glad someone gets it. I'm sorry you are also I'm a similar situation. Yes I will take her advice even if it's not what I want to hear as she is a professional and I will trust her in what she says.

She’s delusional because despite legal professionals explaining probate law she’s taking advice from people like you who do not know what they are talking about. Are you legally qualified? I doubt it.

Quite. But Chocolate 50 is saying what the OP wants to hear so that’s why OP is so keen to listen to her. 🙄

Maybe I dont have a chance (though I will not give up the case just on the say so if people on the internet) but some of you seem so happy at another's misfortune.

OP, many, many posters have tried over and over again to stop you causing yourself and your children further misfortune. You say that you have not posted here for sympathy but for advice but you are not listening to that advice no matter how many times it is repeated over and over again. You will not be able to pick and choose what questions you answer or who or what to listen to should this go any further. You will not be in control. You will not be able to make allegations about your mother or your brother and his partner. You will have to produce evidence.

@Narcheska while I appreciate a lot of people on here have offered me sympathies and kind advice there are some people who have been downright nasty as even @Chocolate50 has noticed. A couple of people even had mumsnet delete their posts for being nasty. It's like some people delight in others misfortunes.

It's like some people delight in others misfortunes.

Like people who wish infertility upon others?

OP you said your mum didn’t know what she was doing as your dad paid all the bills. That isn’t unusual and is not evidence that someone isn’t of sound mind.

Every post you make makes you sound silly. Do you really think you can keep putting a stop to probate and don’t have any responsibility to provide evidence. I feel very sorry for your brother.

Ilovechinese

I've been through the will writing process for myself and for my wonderful mum who passed last year from cancer. I know for a fact the solicitor has to receive instructions directly from the client not a third party. They then draft the instructions given by the client into a will and then present it to the client with a confirmation that it exactly covers what they were instructed to do. I'm really sorry if this is upsetting to you (and believe me I do understand your grief) but regardless of what you think your brother told her to do, she understood clearly enough to be able to instruct a solicitor directly and then confirm those were her wishes when the will was signed off.

Is it unfair? Absolutely and you have every right to be angry. Is it what she wanted? Sadly yes.

@Ilovechinese you are being very selective who you reply to !
Anyway it’s wine o’clock 🍷

The very vast majority on here OP have or had a lot of sympathy for you. Losing your parents is hard, realising one of your parents favoured a particular child is also incredibly hard. You said yourself she wasnt the mother you woukd have liked in life and sadly she wasnt in death either. What has happened is people have got frustrated with your refusal to listen to anything you dont want to hear as the thread has gone on and sympathy has started to go as your replies have git more unpleasant. I know people that have been completely consumed by a bitterness that something or someone is unfair and despite everyone initially having sympathy with them as time has gone on and the bitterness has grown so has the sympathy for them decreased. The bitterness eats away at you and sadly it makes people unpleasant to be around so others stop bothering with them. Don't let that happen to you.

@sweeneytoddsrazor I have only been rude to people who were rude to me first (and there is quite a few on here who have been) I think a few people misunderstood my comment about saying I hope they dont have children if they agree with what my mother did. As like I said what kind decent mother would treat her children so unfairly unless without good reason and I assure you I did nothing to deserve it as some people are trying to insinuate. Also my mum wouldn't care if I said that to her if she was here she would just laugh and say she never wanted any so it wouldn't bother her.

its also my young innocent children who have no grandparents now and are also hurt by this.

Well, only if you have been pouring your poisonous views in their ears

Lol my poisonous views? And what views would those be? That all children should be treated equally?

No children don’t need to be treated equally. Your parents money isn’t yours. They can piss it up against the wall, go on luxury holidays and favour 1 child. Not your decision.

You’ve made comments about your brother not being your dads child as some type of justification for your attitude . I find that awful as do I think your bragging that other members of your family are ostracising him and your mums money being your dads money not hers. Give your head a wobble.

Without supporting evidence, your views that your brother and his partner deliberately coerced your mother into leaving all of your father's money to them when she was not of sound mind and that they lied to the solicitor regarding her medication and broken hip could be construed as poisonous.

So he is a half brother. It is a pity your Dad did not make provision for this in his will.

Nobody is delighted at your misfortune OP.

However as this thread has progressed a lot of people are increasingly frustrated at your unwillingness to take on board the gravity of the situation you are in.

You've entered a high stakes game with seemly zero understanding of the risks you are taking.

When these risks are explained you continue to dismiss them falling back on arguments that posters have time and again gone to the trouble of explaining are not relevant.

You've totally misunderstood the situation re: placing the caveat on the Will - believing it's now incumbent on your brother to prove validity rather than the other way round.

You've failed to appreciate the costs that have built up in the 12 months (even things like heating the house which should be obvious, insurance, legal fees etc ) you could be liable for unless you can prove the will is invalid - not the estate - you - should your brother choose to claim against you (which if he is the nasty person you believe him to be he will).

You seem to think people can't get money from you that don't have and have and not given any thought to the long term implications of possibly tens of thousands of debt/bankruptcy.

Basically everyone (unless they are egging you on or commiserating with you about the injustice you haven suffered) is ignored or gets an overly emotional response rooted in the missives that "it's not fair" and "people are mean" and then in your obstinacy feel even more injustice at people losing sympathy because they see that you seem hell bent on ignoring the seriously negative consequences you may have already incurred.

You should not be involving your kids in this.

Whenever a prospective client says the matter is a 'point of principle', -and they don't have huge reserves of cash at the ready- shake their hand, tell them it was lovely to meet them but unfortunately you are not sufficiently skilled in the area to represent them and turn them away.

Yep it is poisonous.

I used to deal with industrial claims for COPD and bronchitis. If I had a pound for every family member who phoned and argued they should be dealing with the claim because the claimant was old and didn’t understand, I’d be rich. Oh no let me give you my bank details and you can pay the compensation into my account as he doesn’t have an account. They soon backed off when I insisted in speaking to the claimant and if necessary their doctor.

I don’t see how this case is different. The OP doesn’t see her brother as part of the family and thinks she can cast aspersions against her mums capacity because she was on strong medication.

@User56781234 as I already said I have got evidence that she lied to the solocitor, medical notes and large v nugus so that is all facts not poisonous at all! They are the poisonous ones!

What evidence? What lies? Who’s the ‘she’. Do you mean your mum, you know the person who’s died and has decided who to leave the money to. What’s a hot port hot to do with it.

So, why have not taken your brother and his partner to court already?

Evidence that she lied to the solicitor. No not my mother the partner!

He said he will be taking me and I'm still waiting a year on. As I already said before.