Empty sac/sacs

[MJB1ESS]

Hi ladies, I'm new here and just looking for some advice.
I'm 27 years old with a 4 year old son and 2 year old son. I'm currently between 5-6 weeks pregnant (difficult to tell due to irregular cycles)
I paid for a private scan yesterday to rule out ectopic due to cramping on one side.

During the scan the sonographer found an empty sac, then another potential empty sac (but mentioned that this could be a bleed)

I'm just after some advice really. Has anyone ever seen an empty sac/sacs and gone on to have a healthy pregnancy?

My LMP was 05/12/19 so according to online due date calculators I'm around 5+3.

Thank you!

I have been pregnant twice in my life. Both the result of IVF. One empty sac exactly as you have described. One ectopic a year later. I have no children. I’m sorry it’s not what you want to hear.

Update. Had some spotting today. Went to BEP clinic (I work in a hospital) who gave me a blood form to measure my HCG levels. I was told that they won't scan unless the HCG level is higher than 2000 (which is around 5/6 weeks) as they won't see much before this gestation.

I have to call back in the morning to get the results then might get an early scan.

Feeling very emotional right now xx

Yes my empty sac is at uni now. It was just too early.

And I was spotting too. Sending support.

How are you today? X

So I had a bit more spotting last night. The BEP clinic called me this morning to confirm that my HCG level is 8000. They scanned me to check if it's viable and said that there is a haematoma next to the sac which is the likely culprit for the spotting. Good news is that the sac now has a little yolk sac. She dated me at only 5 weeks so I must have ovulated really late, which is strange because I got my BFP on 4th January xx

Ah brilliant. I hope it continues to progress normally xx

So pleased for you. Just came on to say 5+3 is far too early to pick anything up and I’m amazed they even managed to find a sac abdominally. I had a private scan at 5+6 and saw the heartbeat but it was transvaginal and it looked like a flickering full stop it was so tiny.

I wish you all the best, hope everything is fine from here on out. Early pregnancy is a tough time.

You wouldnt normally see anything in a sac until 7wks.

I’m so pleased for you xx

Thank you ladies. Got a long road ahead but fingers crossed! The scan I had today was a vaginal, that's amazing that you saw the little heartbeat so early! I'm hoping to see a little baba on my next one Xx

Hello, glad your pregnancy is progressing - I also had an empty gestational sac and a yolk sac at 5+4, and then a week later there was an embryo with a heartbeat. 5 is just really early to see anything.

So glad it was a positive outcome

I used to work as a nurse in gynae and 5-6 weeks is too early to see anything conclusive. 7+ weeks is much more accurate. After 8 weeks if there is a heartbeat the MC risk drops to 2%

It’s just too early to tell, sending positive thoughts your way and try and rest and “relax” as much as you can, the waiting is such a headfuck

I had a scan at 5 weeks and 5 days due to a slight bleed. There was an empty sac. I went on holiday the day after and felt terrible for the whole two weeks and worrying the whole time.
Came back for scan 2 weeks later and baby was fine. I think sometimes it’s just too early and certain angles can make sac look empty. Hope everything goes okay 💐

Any update @MJB1ESS ?x

So so happy to read the update that there’s a yolk sac ! My heart ached for you when I started to read your thread . I have a hematoma too and have been told if I have any spotting it’ll be from that. I think it’s quite common . So glad there’s a little bean there , no wonder they couldn’t see anything if you’re only 5 weeks . That must’ve been so scary xx

Hi ladies, yes went in for my re-scan on Friday and saw the heartbeat 💕 I'm so relieved now! I'm 6+6 today. I've been told that the other sac is empty but I'm not so sure. My next scan is on 10th Feb so from doing a bit of research I'm guessing I'll either see that the sac has shrunk/been absorbed or there could potentially be something hiding in there. I'm just so relieved to have seen the heartbeat now and hoping everything is okay at my next scan.

Thanks for asking! Xx

Beautiful I’m so glad !! Xx

Ahh, I had this but with heavy bleeding and cramping. My blighted ovum is currently 16, full of cold and working on a level homework on the dining room table. I was dated as less pregnant than my dates but she arrived bang on the date that matched my dates rather than those first scans.

I hope the rest of the pregnancy goes smoothly op.

So so pleased for you @MJB1ESS .... had been thinking how you were doing. Lots of luck for a happy healthy pregnancy x

Hi I really need some advice/support. This week has been one of the hardest I could ever imagine. After trying for over a year to conceive and tracking cycles/ ovulation etc we found out we were expecting. I thought that all the upset and worry was finally behind us and we got what we felt like we waited so long for (I appreciate people
Have waited so much longer but anytime is horrendous for anyone). I am 24 and my partner is 28. Due to COVID we booked a private scan only to be told it was a pregnancy of unknown location and their was not even a sac. They told us to take another test in the morning and if it was stil positive to attend the early pregnancy unit. I had been taken them since we found out and according to my last period was 7 weeks on the day of the scan. At the hospital the next day bloods were taken and the report from the private scan had actually stated their was a sac measuring 16mm but nothing else. She said at the private scan she couldn’t see anything that made her think it was ectopic. I’ve had no pain bleeding etc. My HCG levels came back at 38,000 on Saturday and so they felt a scan would be best on the Monday. On Monday the sac had grown to 19mm but nothing more in it. They also believed to see a potentially collapsed cyst or something near my ovary but the sac was definitely where it needed to be. I am going back again on Monday (a week later) for a re-scan if they still see nothing that means it’s all over as it should be over 25mm by that point. Is their any hope? What will happen? No one took the time to explain I am crushed and I don’t feel like I will ever get through this. My heart is breaking. I am having horrible symptoms I feel sick all day and everything smells awful and I’m struggling to eat lots of different foods. My boobs hurt and none of these things had subsided which makes it worse to think my body is supporting a baby that just isn’t there. What a shattered dream.

Hi, first of all I hope you're okay, the beginning of pregnancy can be a worrisome time. Personally, I wouldn't give up hope just yet. This is my 3rd baby (4th pregnancy if you include the chemical between) and I've always got my dates wrong due to irregular periods. I felt the same with this pregnancy, when I saw two empty sacs at what I thought was further than I actually was it was crushing, that time between scans I was a wreck. Please don't give up, I'm now 30+4 with that pregnancy and my 1 lucky baba that did develop xx

Thank you for replying and your positive words. It has been the hardest week and I’ve still got three days to wait. I don’t know if I even want to get to Monday or the not knowing is better than it all being over. It’s my first pregnancy I’m otherwise healthy apart from medicated under active thyroid which has been under control for years. My periods vary 28-34 ish days so I’m hoping maybe it could be that. It such a mix bag when you go to the hospital. The nurses have shown such compassion and kindness yet some doctors have been quite brutal and less regarding for my feelings. Please don’t feel you have to answer but can I asked what happened with the other sac? They’ve seen something near my ovary and my MIL made a comment about maybe that was another sac in a different place? It’s all so confusing 😩

for you
I have under active thyroid since my first baby and since then have had periods of sub fertility 2 miscarriages and 2 babies since then. regarding early scans, we had one that developed from a sac seen at 5w and 2 early scans which got to heartbeat stage but didn’t progress - measuring 6-7w at 9w when lost, one of which had bleeding/pain throughout and they were sure the pregnancy wasn’t developing properly but we had to wait for the little heartbeat to stop before I could have a D&c.

It is horrible waiting but no one can tell you what will happen, trying to stay positive, being kind to yourself and keeping busy is my only (rubbish) advice.

The other thing is making sure they keep your TSH below 2.5 for conception/pregnancy - which is lower than the regular reference range, and increasing the dose of thyroxine by 25ug as soon as you find out you’re pregnant (although obvs speak to doctor first)

Good luck