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To complain to uni

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Nursingnew · 17/01/2020 18:17

Hi,
New poster and account here so sorry if I've posted in the wrong section.
But I'm applying to nursing this year and applied to a uni and had an interview for it. They gave me an offer but for a different course for healthcare studies because I didn't meet the entry requirements.
If I didn't meet their requirements shouldn't they have rejected me before and not make me prepare for a nursing interview to give me another course

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MissBax · 18/01/2020 16:39

That's not the obvious reason at all. The person with the lower grades probably got in on clearing

Then Op may still get an offer through clearing... Or not if they decide to go ahead and complain lol

LIZS · 18/01/2020 16:39

And if you do meet or exceed their entry grades and they still have spaces come August there is nothing to stop you calling and asking if they would take you on your preferred course, even if you have firmed/insured elsewhere. They are not obliged to though and accepting another uni offering a place now may be preferable.

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Nursingnew · 18/01/2020 16:41

@Dolorabelle And i am so grateful that they have offered me their advice and i understand now where i went wrong originally by thinking it was just my predicted grades and will now just phone and ask for feedback on Monday. How am i persistent in my views that i am justified ?? i fully accept i was in the wrong with the drug calculations etc. and will work on this moving forward.
I'm sorry , i didn't meant to come across as persistent and rude.

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bruffin · 18/01/2020 17:01

That's not the obvious reason at all. The person with the lower grades probably got in on clearing
Not necessarily DD got an offer lower than the headline offer . Think healine was 104 ucas points and her offer was 96 ie MMM instead of DMM

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Nursingnew · 18/01/2020 17:06

@woodchuck99 yes, she did get in through clearing.

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woodchuck99 · 18/01/2020 17:12

yes, she did get in through clearing.

That explains it. The grades sometimes drop quite a bit on clearing especially last year when the A-level grades were lower than they had been for about 10 years and it is a fairly low birthrate year.

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Nursingnew · 18/01/2020 17:14

@woodchuck99 that makes sense. Thank-you for all the advice you have given to me; I appreciate it. Smile

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woodchuck99 · 18/01/2020 17:18

Not necessarily DD got an offer lower than the headline offer . Think healine was 104 ucas points and her offer was 96 ie MMM instead of DMM

That's only one grade lower though isn't it?

Chocolatelover45 · 18/01/2020 20:07

@underthecedartree
By saying research is irrelevant, I just meant that whether a university does much research on the topic doesn't affect how good the course is from an undergraduate nursing student's perspective. It's far more important that it's taught by people with experience in the field, and that students get a good grounding in practical skills /communication skills /basic science, rather than the more esoteric aspects. The people in charge of the course will presumably be updating it in line with research done elsewhere to keep up with accepted best practice. If someone was thinking of choosing a university to do a masters degree in nursing then the research aspect would be much more relevant.

LittleDragonGirl · 19/01/2020 11:20

@Nursingnew

The grades needed are lowered at clearly but that still dosent mean they'll take anyone. And often if grades aren't met they will consider making allowances if previous relevant experience is evidenced, or additional skills and knowledge outside of the standard grades.
This is often how mature students get places on on courses.

From my experience working clearing, child nursing is hugely over subscribed and often is one of the first courses which closes for clearing, so if you intend to apply through clearly I suggest collecting your grades as soon as the school opens, and calling the universities you want to apply for soon as possible. Even if you have a conditional offer, I would still collect your grades soon as, just incase you dont make the grades, as you dont wanna leave it till later in the day incase you need to apply through clearing.

BlueJava · 19/01/2020 11:25

OP you really aren't coming across well here. You seem to look down on people, referring to others as chavs, Surely the other interview gave you an opportunity to do another course (which you could have turned down) which seems very reasonable of them. Perhaps they felt you weren't suited to nursing and there were question marks over your attitude?

LittleDragonGirl · 20/01/2020 19:09

clearly = clearing

Disclaimer: clearing also comes with the risk that courses may be full, so although are a good way to get onto courses when grades are not as needed it isnt guaranteed and for nursing still involves interview and is at the discretion of the interviewer.

TheBigFatMermaid · 20/01/2020 19:13

Only one in eight applying for adult nursing actually get accepted!

TinyGhostWriter · 20/01/2020 19:31

Give your self a shake.

If prepping for an interview is such an inconvenience, you won’t be cut out for a nursing degree.

After interview, it’s not unheard of for unis and colleges to offer students a place on the course below the level they have applied for. Sometimes they even offer students a place on the level above if they have suitable qualifications.

It’s competitive. They gave you an opportunity, but you didn’t make the cut.

Take this as an opportunity for you to reflect on what you could have done differently. You are taking a good step by asking for feedback.

In life, adults need to be able to cope when they don’t get exactly what they want, rather than blaming others and huffing and puffing.

Whentheleavesfalldown · 20/01/2020 19:45

I'm 3 years post qualified and I got in through clearing with grades CCD, uni originally wanted BBB. They were offering 10 places and I was competing with over 250 other candidates. I also didn't get the maths test 100% right, i forgot to look on the back page so i missed a couple of questions! You may not have interviewed as well as you think, asking for feedback would be useful.
You first post is clearly judgemental and you have a lot to learn if you want to be a nurse, you will encounter all kinds of people in your career, including 'chavs' as you put it, and you cannot be judgemental and treat them any differently to any other patient, try to have an open mind about other people and their circumstances.
Good luck with your exams, nursing is a very rewarding career.

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Nursingnew · 20/01/2020 19:49

@whentheleavesfalldown thankyou. What uni did you go to if you don't mind me asking and which ones normally go into clearing?

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Nursingnew · 20/01/2020 19:51

@TinyGhostWriter I didn't say the interview was an inconvenience. I thought they offered me an alternative course due to my predicted grades so I saw it as useless for them to invite me to an interview. However as other posters have told me "entry requirements" are not just predicted grades I understand now.

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Musmerian · 20/01/2020 19:55

Clearly the interview did not go as well as you thought. Strikes me from this thread you lack a bit of self- awareness. The RG thing is completely irrelevant and you have zero grounds for complaint. You could ask for some feedback and consider relevant work experience or re- sitting exams.

JanuaryIsNotTheOnlyMonth · 21/01/2020 09:32

Musmerian, I don't think NursingNew has taken her exams yet as she's apparently only 17. These are predicted grades.

Comefromaway · 21/01/2020 09:35

I can see the OP's point. Getting to interviews can be time consuming and expensive. If it's a case that they were never even considering the OP for the course she applied to then she should have been told and offered the option of interviewing for the alternate.

SueEllenMishke · 21/01/2020 09:49

I can see the OP's point. Getting to interviews can be time consuming and expensive. If it's a case that they were never even considering the OP for the course she applied to then she should have been told and offered the option of interviewing for the alternate

But this isn't what would have happened. They will have interviewed her for nursing. Once they decided she wasn't suitable then they will have offered an alternative.....which is acceptable practice. Universities have to open and transparent about their recruitment practices. If they were interviewing her for the alternative then they would have had to have made this clear.

woodchuck99 · 21/01/2020 11:07

Once they decided she wasn't suitable then they will have offered an alternative.....which is acceptable practice.

The fact she didn't get an offer doesn't mean she is unsuitable for nursing! It just means that they had other suitable candidates and for whatever reason they offered them a place rather than OP. There's no knowing what the criteria were and as I said it could have been fairly random in the end.

bruffin · 21/01/2020 13:30

Getting to interviews can be time consuming and expensive.
If you apply for nursing or other health related courses it is pretty clear that you have to attend an interview an in our case dd decided not to attend open days and just go to interviews

okiedokieme · 21/01/2020 13:35

The reply will be a standard reply, didn't meet the criteria for entry, it's tough but not everyone is successful

SueEllenMishke · 21/01/2020 13:59

woodchuck she clearly wasn't suitable for their nursing course .....

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