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Mumsnet advertising Daily Mail on Homepage

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Bessica1970 · 15/01/2020 21:50

I actively avoid anything to do with the Daily Mail (I don't click on links from them) and cut up my Nectar card when Nectar started promoting the Daily Mail.
I was very disappointed to see Mumsnet homepage plastered with adverts for, and links to, the Daily Mail.
Now I enjoy reading MN - but if I'm going to stand by my principles I need to cut off MN don't I?

YABU - Keep Mumsnet, there's nothing wrong with the DM
YANBU - Dump MN, they're supporting hatred by promoting the DM

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NextdoorNeighbourIsATwat · 15/01/2020 22:57

ACat. I despise that too, actually. But I can't abide the virtue signalling around the DM.

Everybody knows that the DM is a trashy read, that's why it's so popular. But the race to proclaim it 'The Daily Fail' or to announce 'i never read the fail but here's a link I happened to find', or 'I'm so incensed that I'm getting adverts for the daily mail that I'll ditch this free forum in the same way that I cut my nectar card up'. Well, it's tiresome. You don't get a badge for it or anything.

palomapear · 15/01/2020 22:59

Use the App.

NextdoorNeighbourIsATwat · 15/01/2020 23:01

Exactly T0tally.

I think part of my irritation with this issue is that my colleagues who snigger at the mention of the DM are the same ideologically possessed stasi who follow The Guardian's doctrine. I.e. They are part of the problem. 'We can't think this, we can't read that'.

WorraLiberty · 15/01/2020 23:01

Back in the day, before the DM online became so popular, MNetters who wanted to start a virtue signalling, Daily Mail bashing thread used to start with...

"I was at my PIL's house and I happened to see a copy of the Daily Fail"

Or

"I was at the hairdressers and noticed the Daily Mail was the only thing available to read".

They were the two most common 'reasons' for MNetters to 'stumble across' it Hmm

JayAlfredPrufrock · 15/01/2020 23:06

Like the thread the other day

‘Have we been invaded by DM readers?’

Who is we?

NextdoorNeighbourIsATwat · 15/01/2020 23:07

What I notice now Worra is that a story will be top of the DM but somebody will start a thread about it but link to some obscure publication instead. 'Oh I just happened to be reading the South Ludlow Tribune'' or whatever.

It's so tedious. It's amazing that humans are afraid of being judged by a bunch of strangers who don't even know who they are!

WorraLiberty · 15/01/2020 23:09

It's so tedious. It's amazing that humans are afraid of being judged by a bunch of strangers who don't even know who they are!

Exactly this! ^^

They can't type you to death! Grin

willothewispa · 15/01/2020 23:13

I have adblocker so I never see any adverts Grin

MissMoogle · 15/01/2020 23:40

I have an advert for The Times, despite the fact that I have never actually read it, and an advert for a Samsung galaxy watch which has been popping up with great alacrity since I got one at Christmas...

MissMoogle · 15/01/2020 23:42

Must add, these ads are on my smartphone. My pc is adblocked to within an inch of its life. Havent quite worked out how to adblock my phone yet

donquixotedelamancha · 16/01/2020 00:10

The mail is not what it once was. It used to make stuff up wholesale. It caused the NMR panic with sustained lies over months. Many past headlines were deeply wrong, often laughable but horrid.

It's still trashy but since Grieg took over it doesn't seem as bad. At the same time journalism standards in many papers have plummeted over the last decade.

I don't see that the Mail is a special case any more.

AFemaleWoman · 16/01/2020 00:30

I don't see any ads on the app.

I think a lot of mners use the Daily Mail, sometimes almost every link I see in threads are to the Daily Mail. I've often wondered what percentage of traffic to the Daily Mail is from mumsnet.

NextdoorNeighbourIsATwat · 16/01/2020 08:28

I agree DonQuix - I've seen some excellent articles in it over the past few years. Still not as good (in my eyes) as The Times but it's not a special case as you say.

It doesn't warrant this silly self-flagellation.

WorraLiberty · 16/01/2020 10:50

So are we to conclude the OP name changed left Mumsnet?

Starlink · 16/01/2020 11:32

Love the DM.

WorraLiberty · 16/01/2020 11:45

I don't feel one way or the other about it, so I don't bother reading it.

I've just never got the fake Mumsnet outrage by people who claim not to read it and never click on links.

Yet they seem to know so much about it.

bookmum08 · 16/01/2020 11:53

To be honest an awful lot of the opinions I read on mumsnet are very 'Middle England Daily Mail' style.

WorraLiberty · 16/01/2020 12:02

Yes and yet 'Penis Beaker' got the blame for attracting Daily Mail readers here. Yet they've always been here.

NextdoorNeighbourIsATwat · 16/01/2020 12:35

I don't think this thread has gone quite the way the OP was hoping so she's probably been scared off.

Or maybe she's reading the DM.

MoonbeamsAndCaterpillars · 16/01/2020 12:39

I am no friend of the DM, but I wouldn't get rid of MN over it personally. I have never seen a DM ad on here and I'm disappointed that they are letting them advertise that disgusting rag on here, but I won't be dumping MN over it. I would like to ask them why they are taking advertising money from that merry band of racist twunts though.

isadoradancing123 · 16/01/2020 12:45

Not your decision what newspapers people choose to read, stop your emotional blackmail

MorrisZapp · 16/01/2020 12:45

No DM fan here but it's a free speech issue for me. As a gender crit, the woke stasi consider me untouchable, vile and unworthy of a voice. But no matter what they think, I'm free to speak my views. Be careful what you wish for. One day the world might lurch in an unpredictable way and all that you hold true might be deemed despicable. I won't silence anyone, the usual laws notwithstanding.

WorraLiberty · 16/01/2020 12:45

I would like to ask them why they are taking advertising money from that merry band of racist twunts though.

Because again, it's Mumsnet's most talked about/linked to newspaper.

The DM has made a lot of money out of MN over the years with the traffic its brought to its website.

They probably feel it's about time they made some money out of the DM too.

MoonbeamsAndCaterpillars · 16/01/2020 12:54

Because again, it's Mumsnet's most talked about/linked to newspaper.

Yeah, I read your "I've been on here since it were all fields round here" post Wink.

It is hardly discussed in a positive way though. I would say most of the feeling on here towards the DM has been negative IME.

There was a spate of DM journos on here a year or two ago and some really cynical reporting by them, even taking a thread by a mother whose two year old son had died very suddenly of sepsis. They used it in their paper. Cunts.

I know they have links with MN, but it disgusts me how they behave on here and in general. I was one of those wags who changed their name to "TheDailyMailIs..." a year or two ago. What a wit I am Wink.

I would really prefer MN took a stand on this, as they have tried to do with certain other issues, even though it probably cost them advertising money in the long run. But I appreciate it isn't easy.

WaitrosesCheapestVodka · 16/01/2020 12:56

Laughable that the DM is pro women. It is full of shaming, diet focused, judging nonsense. Amazing what some women will tolerate to read a negative article about TRAs.

I see the DM like anything said by Piers Morgan, if you find yourself agreeing with anything something has gone very wrong.