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Was I unreasonable?? (MIL thread sorry!)

54 replies

WhatIsThisFreshHell · 15/01/2020 19:28

Looking for a sounding board as starting to feel I’ve lost the plot. Hit me with your YABUs if I deserve them!!

I have had an alright relationship with my MIL for many years. We’re not close, mostly just through being very different, but we manage to rub along ok.

Recently I had an event at my house. All family there, many family friends also. MIL started loudly and pointedly talking about another person who was present at the event and not just in the room at the time but actually sat very close to her (easily within earshot). Things like ‘and I can’t stand him either, so stuck up’.

I overheard (from my position much further away than the - absolutely lovely - person being openly discussed) and was shocked. I asked her to help me in the other room, and (mildly given the event occurring) read the riot act. As in, no drama no anger but, very clearly said - MIL this is my home, these are my guests and good friends, please stop immediately as what you're doing to them is incredibly rude.

Was vvv sure I was NOT BU. Husband totally on my side, as ever (he’s a keeper 😉).

MIL subsequently said sorry - kind of - and I said let’s forget it, it’s done now, it’ll not be tolerated in my house again, but it’s certainly not worth the family falling out over.

But NOW despite that MIL has taken a huff. And has also managed to convince BIL that she’s been treated appallingly- as a result HE is not talking to either myself or my husband.

Was I wrong to react this way?

YANBU- it’s not on, and why should guests in your home be subjected to such hurtful rudeness unchallenged
YABU- you should have let it go or dealt with it differently, this was poorly done.

OP posts:
pigsDOfly · 15/01/2020 20:23

WTF99 Yeah, me too apparently. I'm 71 so I can be even ruder than you.

My exh sister did something very similar in my house. I was living abroad at the time, exh and I had just got married and his sister was visiting.

A friend turned up with his new girl friend, a native of the country we were living in and for some reason SIL decided that friend's girl friend didn't speak/understand English, which was odd because English is the second language of the country and almost everyone there speaks it fluently.

Anyway SIL decided that it would please her to sit in front of friend's girl friend and insult her and her country.

When I'd removed my jaw from the floor I asked her to come with me and said to her more or less what you said to your MIL OP.

She didn't apologise and the matter was left and never mentioned again by her, although I did apologise to the other woman.

SIL wasn't suffering from early stages of dementia, she was just an out and out bitch, as I'd learned from previous remarks she'd made to people; on one occasion I actually walked out of a shop because I didn't want people to know I was with her when she made a remark about the person serving.

I think you dealt with it perfectly. If she's in a huff with you so be it.
Frankly, it sounds like you're better off if she doesn't want to speak to you.

constantlyseekinghappiness · 15/01/2020 20:25

Sorry OP I hit the wrong button in the vote!

YANBU!!!

Redonion123 · 15/01/2020 20:25

You did the right thing, by having words away from everyone else. She was rude talking about people.

billy1966 · 15/01/2020 20:25

Let her huff and puff and enjoy the silence.

WTF99 · 15/01/2020 20:26

Ok retro ....I am suitably admonished. ...but I won't go in a huff Grin

I do think that degrees of riot act reading are probably subjective though and open to interpretation by the individual. So whereas OP felt it was a mild rendition, maybe MIL didn't see it that way.

Nanny0gg · 15/01/2020 20:27

AS a matter of interest, did she try to justify or explain her comments?

BottleOfJameson · 15/01/2020 20:35

Good for you for sticking up for your guests. I would let Bil and Mil sulk as long as they like.

Pumpkinpie1 · 15/01/2020 20:38

I think BIL should ask his brother what happened instead of just taking MIL at face value
I would just rise above it and act as if it was all done and dusted
If MIL wants to discuss it further with you that’s up to her but I wouldn’t apologise or make concessions
Life’s too short & if she wants to spend it stewing with BIL it’s up to them

SilverPinkDaisies · 15/01/2020 20:43

Again I would ask her age. I’ve known one of my delightful grandmother’s be perfectly rude about people, less than a metre away. 🤣🤣😂

Bluerussian · 15/01/2020 20:44

You did the right thing, what on earth was she thinking talking like that about someone in the same room - your guest? Disgusting behaviour.

WTF99 · 15/01/2020 20:50

OP....be the bigger person and make an approach to sort things out between you, whatever the rights and wrongs.

Whynosnowyet · 15/01/2020 20:53

Apologise to mil for her behaviour? Don't you mean mil needs to apologise?

5zeds · 15/01/2020 21:07

She’s been outrageously rude to your guest. Ignore her nonsense and only see her on her own if at all.

corcaithecat · 15/01/2020 21:20

I voted YANBU.
However, did you ask MIL why she was deliberately sounding off about this person within their earshot? You say that this person is ‘absolutely lovely’ but could MIL have unfinished business with this person that you weren’t aware of beforehand?

If she’s normally quite catty about other people then fair enough, but I wonder if MIL has a long held grudge against that person that when she them, couldn’t contain at the party?

echt · 15/01/2020 21:41

However, did you ask MIL why she was deliberately sounding off about this person within their earshot? You say that this person is ‘absolutely lovely’ but could MIL have unfinished business with this person that you weren’t aware of beforehand?

None of this excuses the MIL's behaviour. The OP dealt with the behaviour; time for backstory after.

HazelBite · 15/01/2020 21:54

Was there any reason behind MILs dislike of this person, history??

Is this unlike her usual behaviour?
Just to add (as a previous poster brought it up) a good friend of mine behaved on several occasions like this in social situations, and it was generally out of character, Within 5 years she was diagnosed with early onset dementia. And no I'm not being ageist being in my 60's as well, unfortunately if it is out of character it could bear consideration.

StrangeLookingParasite · 15/01/2020 22:14

Did you get her side of the story at the time?

Her 'side' is irrelevant. If she has a problem with this person, being outrageously rude about them at someone else's party is not the time.

Retroflex · 15/01/2020 22:28

@WTF99 well if the OP's mil is anything like mine, it wouldn't matter how you told her she was wrong, she'd still huff about it, because she's used to being the matriarch, and nobody dares argue or go against what she says... GrinGrinGrin

I love her dearly, and I accept her despite her flaws! Now the sil is another story all together! She has a really obnoxious attitude towards almost everyone, is a compulsive liar, and I'd honestly struggle to find a single nice thing to say about her! GrinGrinGrin

Angelw · 15/01/2020 22:30

You can’t control people like that. If your MIL has a problem with the said person then leave it to her or (they Both) to sort out but I don’t think it’s your place to invigilate.. it may be your home but you have no control over other people’s actions and behaviour. I think you were quite rude to your MIL, is my genuine opinion! If my DIL spoke to me as you did, then I”d keep my distance .How would I handle your situation? distraction techniques involve everyone in a general discussion etc..

Teaandcrisps · 16/01/2020 00:34

This I dont understand- why didn't your OH, her son deal with it?
Absolutely your BIL is cross but because it was you that read her the quiet 'riot act' and not your OH.
So yes you have been unreasonable as has your OH!

EL8888 · 16/01/2020 00:38

YANBU she is. She was very poorly mannered plus it was your guest and your house. I personally would also enjoy the peace from her. Out of curiosity but what reasons has BIL given for taking her side? I find it hard to believe he has been told the full chain of events.

EL8888 · 16/01/2020 00:39

So what if she felt "admonished and embarrassed". If she behaved better and had some manners then OP wouldn't have needed to speak to her about it.

WhatIsThisFreshHell · 16/01/2020 13:57

@Teaandcrisps he wasn’t in the room, he was busy elsewhere. It truly didn’t occur to me to go get him, explain to him and get him to fix it for me. It was my issue, I addressed it there and then. That said I do suspect you’re right and BiLs annoyance is at me (an outsider of sorts) doing it. I can’t think of any other reason why, unless a very warped version of what I said has been presented to him.

Sorry can’t remember who asked, I can’t ask him. (BIL) He has ignored both husband and I since. (No backstory here, everything fine prior to this).

OP posts:
Retroflex · 16/01/2020 17:10

@Teaandcrisps what age are you? I ask because you seem to have a rather outdated view. Why should a woman, (in this case @WhatIsThisFreshHell), who has witnessed something they find unacceptable, have her husband deal with it for her? It's 2020 for goodness sake! And as an adult, old enough to be married, with her own home on which she was entertaining, she was well within her rights to speak to her mil without having to involve her husband prior! Hmm

Retroflex · 16/01/2020 17:14

Also @Teaandcrisps you say "Absolutely your BIL is cross but because it was you that read her the quiet 'riot act' and not your OH."

Are you personally involved? Do you know the bil and what he is upset about exactly? Because he may very well have been annoyed if his brother had spoken to the mother for all you know... Hmm