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AIBU to think this is a bit insensitive?

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KitKat1985 · 13/01/2020 14:16

Started another post but somehow posted too soon, so have asked MNHQ to remove that as it made no sense. In essence I've had a disastrous month financially due to unavoidable household emergencies, (needed a new boiler) and I've got some debt to repay. Old friend messaged me the other day who I've not seen in ages to ask if me and another old friend would like to have a catch up, and if we would like to join her at a spa day at a posh hotel. So as not to drip feed, I think both these friends have always been more financially comfortable than me, but it's usually not a massive issue. On this occasion however I decided to bite the bullet and admit (somewhat embarrassingly) that I'm struggling with money at the moment, and I'd love to catch up but could we do dinner or something rather than an expensive spa day. She's replied basically saying 'oh but they've got an offer on so it's only £70 at the moment'. That's still a lot of money to me! Plus it'll be more than £70 by the time we buy food and drinks there too. Then I just felt really awkward, as she obviously doesn't consider that to be a lot of money and must just think I'm really tight, so I've said I'll think about it. But now I think about it I'm wondering if she was a bit insensitive to reply like that. It's pretty embarrassing to be honest to have to admit to someone who is financially very comfortable that I'm struggling and can't keep up with their lifestyle choices. AIBU?

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ScreamingLadySutch · 13/01/2020 16:06

Real friends would club in for the £35 each to treat you.

But the problem with spa days is all the extras they charge on top and the products they push you to buy.

katy1213 · 13/01/2020 16:08

If you hadn't been invited, would you have been on here bleating that your friend had deliberately excluded you?
She made you aware of an offer. If you can't afford it, that's tough but she wasn't twisting your arm.

KitKat1985 · 13/01/2020 16:08

Oh to be clear I wouldn't expect them to pay for me at all. That would definitely embarrass me! I'm not after charity from them!

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DoesItGetAnyBetter · 13/01/2020 16:09

Ah KitKat, don’t feel bad. Everyone has been skint at some point in their life.

I agree your friend probably thought £70 was a bargain compared to the original price. I can’t imagine she would want to embarrass you and would be mortified if she thought she had.

How about replying “sorry xxxxxxx, I’m still going to have to sit this one out (the price of a new boiler is enough to make anyone weep!) Hope you guys enjoy. Perhaps we could have lunch/dinner one day soon instead?”

TeaForTara · 13/01/2020 16:10

I think you are being a bit over-sensitive but she is being a bit thick-skinned. Come out with it straight: "I had to find £2,000 (or however much) for a new boiler this month without warning so I literally only have a few pennies to scrape together. The Spa day sounds lovely but is impossible for me this month."

DoesItGetAnyBetter · 13/01/2020 16:16

katy1213 that’s a bit harsh.

Everyone is entitled to feel a bit sad that they are missing out on something they would enjoy.

The OP has never suggested the others couldn’t go without her. Only her embarrassment at feeling obliged to confess her financial status.

Highonpotandused · 13/01/2020 16:22

On this occasion however I decided to bite the bullet and admit (somewhat embarrassingly) that I'm struggling with money at the moment, and I'd love to catch up but could we do dinner or something rather than an expensive spa day.

I think you were BU for trying to change the plan from a spa day to a dinner.

Nothing wrong with saying you’re short on cash, but I would have said I won’t be able to join the spa day due to finances being right at the moment but you would be happy to do dinner another time.

I don’t understand why it’s more embarrassing to say ‘I can’t make it, have a great time’ than to try and change the plan from a spa day to dinner?

Drabarni · 13/01/2020 16:23

I'd have just said can't afford it, 15 year friendship or not, they should respect this.
Why offer dinner, surely it would cost about the same?
I can't afford stuff like that, there's nothing to be embarrassed about.

KitKat1985 · 13/01/2020 16:24

Thanks for your comments. I've taken them on board and accepted that I've been a bit over-sensitive so have sent a polite message saying I can't afford it right now but hope they have a great time and hope to catch up with them soon.

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Highonpotandused · 13/01/2020 16:29

OP, if they’re any kind of friends, the next catch-up they suggest will be easier in the wallet. Or maybe you could suggest dinner in the next week or so, at a venue that you can afford. If they try and change the plan to something expensive then they are being insensitive to you.

YouMaySayImADreamer · 13/01/2020 16:34

I don't think it was insensitive...she wasn't to know how much disposable income you did have and for all she knew perhaps you thought at the full price of say, £150, it was unaffordable, but £70 may have been so she offered a solution.

I also think it can be annoying when you invite people to something and they try to change the plans to suit them. I think you should have suggested lunch next month and not tried to change their plans

Aridane · 13/01/2020 16:40

On this occasion however I decided to bite the bullet and admit (somewhat embarrassingly) that I'm struggling with money at the moment, and I'd love to catch up but could we do dinner or something rather than an expensive spa day.

YWBU to seek to change a planned spa day to "dinner or something".

Just duck out of the meet up - eg busy this month. And if preset - and only then- mention your relative skint ness

Aridane · 13/01/2020 16:41

Persisting, not preset

DoesItGetAnyBetter · 13/01/2020 16:44

Good on you OP.

It’s nothing to be embarrassed about and everyone has been in your position at some point.

Hope you get to catch up with your friends sometime soon x

TigerOnATrain · 13/01/2020 16:53

@KitKat1985 ONLY £70 indeed! Hmm

Tell her to fuck off.

TheMemoryLingers · 13/01/2020 17:10

Another in the "£70 is not an amount that can be prefixed by "only" camp" A week's food shop here!

Highonpotandused · 13/01/2020 17:15

And it’s not just those tight finances that say they can’t afford it.

My friend lives at home and I know she has a lot of savings (£50k).

We recently met and she said finances are right and could we keep it cheap and cheerful. I had no issue with this, she says finances are tight, that’s all I need to know. We then adjust the evening accordingly.

73Sunglasslover · 13/01/2020 17:20

Real friends would club in for the £35 each to treat you.

What if the real friends don't have another £35? I'm going to have to re-evaluate quite a few of my friendships given this criteria....

ScreamingLadySutch · 13/01/2020 17:31

@73Sunglasslover

but she gave the context that those other friends though £70 was nothing. Therefore, what is £35 for them, for the please of a day's company?

73Sunglasslover · 13/01/2020 17:47

Hi Screaming

I think lots of people would be mortified at the idea of their friends subbing the. For me it would make it much harder to be honest about financial struggles and I'd feel obliged to fib instead, possibly leaving my friends feeling a bit put out. Even if your friends are loaded, personally I don't think they should pay for you.

Dafspunk · 13/01/2020 19:06

Could they do the spa and you go along and just meet them for the lunch?

Bluewater1 · 13/01/2020 19:11

I would just say, huge bills this last couple of months, most I could stretch to is £20, could we do something around that cost?

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 13/01/2020 19:14

"Real friends would club in for the £35 each to treat you."

If it was like her birthday or a 10 year meet up or something, not just a casual January thing.

I don't think the OP should read anything about how genuine the friendship is on the basis of them not immediately offering to pay - especially given that until the recent update they will have had ZERO CLUE that the OP couldn't afford it.

Drum2018 · 14/01/2020 18:08

Real friends would club in for the £35 each to treat you.

Why should anyone feel the need to pay for someone else? If a person can't make it then their position needs to be respected, not make them feel like a charity case. I go out in a group and if one says they cannot make it then that's accepted by the rest of the group. We don't need to know the reasons why. We just accept that the person cannot come along on that occasion.

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