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To think this is unprofessional?

133 replies

Florabritannica · 10/01/2020 22:03

My housekeeper left me a brochure for some beauty products with a note saying how brilliant they were and that she could get me a great discount. I looked it up and it is an MLM.
Am I being unreasonable to think that as my employee she shouldn’t be trying to flog me stuff?

OP posts:
backtomyteachername · 11/01/2020 10:40

That’s a bit patronising though, C8

The MLMs do exploit but the people who sign up for them aren’t passive innocent victims.

Mischance · 11/01/2020 10:40

I am glad i am not your employee! - what a fuss over nothing!

I have a cleaner once a fortnight and if she was making herself a bit more cash by selling this stuff I would be pleased for her and buy something or not, depending on whether I liked it.

I cannot begin to imagine what you find objectionable about this.

Palavah · 11/01/2020 10:42

@BoomBoomsCousin has it.

aNonnyMouse1511 · 11/01/2020 10:43

Just say thank you but there’s nothing you need.

Hoppinggreen · 11/01/2020 10:59

If she was your friend or neighbour the general tone on here would be
“Burn the MLM Witch and all her brochures” but because you’ve committed the cardinal sin of having a cleaner (and calling her both a housekeeper and employee) then you are a capitalist swine drinking the blood of the proletariat

Butchyrestingface · 11/01/2020 11:04

you are a capitalist swine drinking the blood of the proletariat

💡

Apropos of nothing, I’m thinking of a username change.

NicEv · 11/01/2020 11:06

Err - just to be clear , if your neighbour or friend left you a brochure I would not think that was an issue either. Jesus - it’s just a brochure , there is no need for the recipient to take massive umbrage!

ScreamingBeans · 11/01/2020 11:10

What do the initials MLM stand for?

Comefromaway · 11/01/2020 11:12

£15 per hour on a 37.5 hour full-time week is a salary of over £29k. That's not bad money at all, that's close to or above the median full time wage.

It’s what my teacher husband earnt until he got a HOD.

Comefromaway · 11/01/2020 11:12

Multi Level Marketing

ScreamingBeans · 11/01/2020 11:13

ThanksSmile

Ishotmrburns · 11/01/2020 11:15

All she did was leave a brochure and a note. Who cares? If she asks in person just say no thank you and move on.

C8H10N4O2 · 11/01/2020 11:47

That’s a bit patronising though, C8

No I'd worry about a friend sucked in to one fo these schemes as well (and I've seen it happen).

The MLMs do exploit but the people who sign up for them aren’t passive innocent victims

In that case they wouldn't be exploitative. The techniques used are on a par with the best con artists and operate at all levels of the market. I particularly despise the schemes which target lower earners trying to do the best for their families but there are also plenty of MLM type "share" schemes which have conned people with more substantial assets.

If you think you could never be conned you are a potential victim.

Cornettoninja · 11/01/2020 11:51

If you think you could never be conned you are a potential victim

This x1000.

There’s a lot of really interesting psychology behind MLM and cults. Having the fortune to come across the information that explains that to you before you’re involved isn’t the same thing as being clever enough to avoid it off your own back.

Somanysocks · 11/01/2020 12:00

In spite of the fact that the Op has provided only basic relevant information people seem to have embellished her as being Lady Up My Arse, and her employee as Yes Miss, No Miss, Please Don't Hit Me Miss.

Would everyone rather the Op didn't help the economy and not employ anyone.

GrapesAreMyJam · 11/01/2020 12:04

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coconuttelegraph · 11/01/2020 12:39

What world do all these posters live in where £15 per hour isn't a good wage.

When I worked in retail not one single person below head of department level earned anything like that and I worked for a company that paid higher than NMW

NicEv · 11/01/2020 17:14

According to the most recent survey by the Office of National Statistics, the average salary for full-time workers in the UK is £35,423. Considerably higher than £15ph.

No one is saying £15 ph is below the living wage. However, it is not a huge amount. The point being that it is understandable that this lady may wish to find a way to make some more income.

She hasn’t left a shit on the work top. She is trying to earn a little extra money after Christmas - it is not the crime of the century.

X2Kevintheteenagers · 11/01/2020 17:15

Just say no thank you had it back and leave it at that .

dentydown · 11/01/2020 17:22

Just say you can’t use anything but the brands you use now. Anything else brings you out in a rash. Sort of thanks but no thanks

Nacreous · 11/01/2020 17:38

Median full-time earnings in the UK were £585 per week in the UK in April 2019, according to the ONS. Which makes for an average salary of £30,420. Or pay of £14.60 per hour on a 40 hour week, £15.60 on a 37.5 hour week.

Release date of data: 19th December 2019.

www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours

The mean might be £35k, but that will be skewed by high earners, so the median tends to be a more reliable average for figures that have a hard limit (minimum wage) on one side and no limit on the other.

damnthatanxiety · 11/01/2020 21:44

She's self employed. She is not your employee. Jeez. Get over yourself.

Comefromaway · 11/01/2020 22:12

She's self employed. She is not your employee. Jeez. Get over yourself

The OP has categorically stated that she is an employee on a part time (3 days per week) contract with tax & NI deducted at source and workplace pension contributions.

ArthurDentsSpaceTowel · 11/01/2020 22:27

The mean might be £35k, but that will be skewed by high earners, so the median tends to be a more reliable average for figures that have a hard limit (minimum wage) on one side and no limit on the other.

I'd be even more interested in the mode, which is the salary that the largest number of full time workers earn. That's the kind of 'average' that's more representative of reality.

underneaththeash · 11/01/2020 22:29

This is ridiculous - she’s self employed. Just put it in the re-cycling.

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