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AIBU?

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Sister, niece, and the new boyfriend

77 replies

RossPoldarksWife · 07/01/2020 12:22

Until recently, my mum, sister and her family lived a considerable distance from me. In the last 3 years I have holidayed near them. So I can see my mum for two weeks and I pick my niece up to holiday with us and our daughter , both 15yrs.
My step dad died in Feb last year. Mum made the decision to move back home to where the rest of our family are. She’s been here since July.
Sister is divorced for couple years, and has to sell family home. She’s coming home too.
In Dec 2018 my niece had to move schools, she was due to start her GCSE in Sept 2019. She wanted to come here, start school and stay with me until her mum moved up. Sister was adamant no. Even though it would mean starting one school then moving to another in say a year.
Then her new boyfriend starting being more of a regular thing. Niece does not like him. Did not help him slapping her on the bottom the first couple of times he visited. He swears a lot. Niece face timed her cousin lot. So I would hear what was upsetting her and would try to smooth things over.
Suddenly in Feb 2019, sister decides that niece can come up. Will I sort out school etc. Niece is to move in with mum, until sister moves up.
So, roll on 6mths, niece extremely happy, mum loves her new home etc.
Sister announces that boyfriend will be moving in and coming with them when they move. Niece very upset, her mum knows she does not like him. Feels like she has been shipped out of the way, so boyfriend can move in. Sister won’t talk to niece about it. Says she’s 50yrs old and can make her own decisions and won’t be told what to do by her daughter.
Mum and I very much in the middle. Quite happy to still look after niece between us.
Sister lives with her 2 adult sons and now boyfriend. None of the males work. This concerns mum and I . Just doesn’t sit right. She rarely contacts her daughter, once a week and couple of texts. Niece is getting less and less bothered about her mum. Niece has realised since being here that her home life was not what it should have been. Being left from 7am until 10pm, not knowing where he mum was. Ignored by her brothers. Her mum always putting the brothers first. But very controlling with niece.
I have tried to talk to my sister about my nieces feelings and about our concerns with the boyfriend but she won’t listen. Defends the men in her life every time.
I have never met the boyfriend, even though in the last 2yrs I’ve spent about 8 weeks there. We arrange a meet and he always has an excuse not to come. Every time. I do doubt what he says he’s done in the past, he says he has had an amazing career In the paras and police force, but there is no evidence of this.
I don’t know what my AIBU is, but I would like some advice as to how to move forward.

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gavisconismyfriend · 07/01/2020 13:15

Once she is 16, can she make her own decision as to where to live? Not sure, but think this might be legally allowed? Presume your sister not paying your mum any maintenance or anything, so she’s pretty much forfeiting all parental responsibility. Wonder if she will actually move house now she’s settled with boyfriend - may be that she is all talk regarding the move and it will come to nothing anyway?

BrendasUmbrella · 07/01/2020 13:17

She's 15 and her DM is happy for her to stay with you. I think you should keep her with your permanently and treat her DM politely and keep in contact just in case she suddenly decides she wants her back.

Once she's 18 you don't need to worry about them anymore. Drop the contact altogether if it suits you both.

Equanimitas · 07/01/2020 13:18

Nope no pension, I asked that. Apparently, he was shot in the shoulder behind enemy lines, and was discharged from the Army.

Well, that's obvious bollocks. If the injury was post 2005, he'd be entitled to compensation, if it was before then he'd be able to claim under the War Pensions Scheme. For a serious injury (which I assume it would have to be since he was discharged) the compensation scheme would provide a guaranteed income payment tax free.

Winterinthecity · 07/01/2020 13:20

Can't you foster your niece? so you have more responsibility for her and presumably money towards her care too.

I think a close friend of mine did this with the DD of a good friend of hers, the mother wasn't able or fit to look after her child at the time and asked my friend to take her in/to help, over time, not immediately.

RossPoldarksWife · 07/01/2020 13:22

Messolini9.
Nieces dad never worked, or looked after children properly. Sister worked all hours.
I wondered that, surely it would be quite obvious? If he had bullet entry and exit wounds.
She won’t hear of anything said about him.
Same with 31 yr old son and 18yr old son.
Can never do anything wrong. Ever.
Niece however, always in the wrong.

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windycuntryside · 07/01/2020 13:23

She’s old enough now to decide where she wants to continue living and since you and your Mum are happy too, i do not think there is much she can do. Especially if when asked why she doesn’t want to live her mum, she tells them about her mums boyfriend. She hasn’t run away, I can’t see how at 15 she can be “forced” to live with a creepy stranger that smacks a teenager he has just met. Your sister has dangerously low standards.

windycuntryside · 07/01/2020 13:25

Your sister is jealous of her own daughter , which is why she can do nothing to please her.

dottiedodah · 07/01/2020 13:25

Sounds very dodgy to me .I would support Niece 100% as you are doing Women like your DS always make excuses for inadequate men.As they must always have "company" and cant bear to be alone ,even if that means putting their own child at risk sadly! Clares law was set up after Clare Wood was killed by her partner ,and is avaliable to partners /close relatives who suspect someone to have a violent past

huuskymam · 07/01/2020 13:25

Could you put it to your sister to leave your niece with your mum for your mums sake. Maybe shes enjoying having the company and a bit of help.

NurseButtercup · 07/01/2020 13:28

I think your niece is lucky to be surrounded by women who clearly love her unconditionally.

Can't you foster your niece?

I understand this suggestion is coming from a good place, but, if you don't need the £££ I wouldn't bother going through this. The stress & drama it would create will have a negative impact upon your niece and potentially affect the outcome of her GCSE's.

I would reduce contact with your sister and let her get on with her life idolising that loser boyfriend that she's living with.

Thank god for women like you and your DM
Flowers

Fluffycloudland77 · 07/01/2020 13:30

It’s always the paras with this type isn’t it?

Drum2018 · 07/01/2020 13:30

Reassure your niece that she doesn't have to live with her mum, as long as your own mum or yourself can continue to look after her. That should ease any stress your niece may be feeling. There is no way your niece can be forced to move in with her mother. Somehow I doubt your sister would even be bothered that your niece would prefer living with granny or you.

frankincenseandmur · 07/01/2020 13:33

I’d have your niece with you

Bobbiepin · 07/01/2020 13:34

Could you make it a formal foster arrangement so mum can't drag her back if she feels like it?

RossPoldarksWife · 07/01/2020 13:35

Mum loves the company. She gets both girls staying at the weekend, they go and help her with her shopping. Mum was very lonely before. Hence why she moved to be nearer us. It’s changed her too, having teenagers around, made her up to date!! My older children and grandchildren visit regularly too.

No need to foster her, between my mum and DP and I, niece will be very well looked after. Both girls are treated the same wherever possible.

I was thinking of going low contact, just update my sister on school matters, as I am the parent in loco, documents signed by my sister, for school matters.

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RossPoldarksWife · 07/01/2020 13:36

Fluffycloudland77

Ha ha that’s what got me thinking, oh yeah, really.........

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Bobbiepin · 07/01/2020 13:40

If you foster her you will be able to sign all the school docs etc and not rely on your sister for it.

SunshineCake · 07/01/2020 13:41

What a lovely auntie you are Flowers.

IamDisappeared · 07/01/2020 13:42

OP, may I suggest that you pass his fb profile to the "Walter Mitty Hunters Club" group as they can verify his military career on your behalf.

Tellingitlikeitisnt · 07/01/2020 13:44

Your sister is abusive

JKScot4 · 07/01/2020 13:45

Niece does not like him. Did not help him slapping her on the bottom the first couple of times he visited.
My eyebrows still have t came down since reading this. Keep her away from this creep.
Another mother sacrificing her child for the waster bf.

mumwon · 07/01/2020 13:46

www.gov.uk/looking-after-someone-elses-child
several different scenarios

FlamingoQueen · 07/01/2020 13:46

Isn’t there a Law that means you can ask the Police about someone’s past if you’re concerned about them (I want to say Clare’s Law)?
An ex para or policeman I imagine would have a strong work ethic. Thank god your niece has you and your Mum.

Shelvesoutofbooks · 07/01/2020 13:47

My mother was like you sister. To this day I can barely speak to her without screaming at her. She's still the same. Please try and keep your niece with you, show her love, at least that's what I needed at the time.

RossPoldarksWife · 07/01/2020 13:52

Mum won
Thank you, I will look into this with mum.
Although I suspect mum will have too higher savings.

It’s not the money, it’s more about the moral and legality that we have/don’t have.

I really can’t see my sister agreeing to fostering her. She really wants her daughter back with her when they move.

I have reassured my niece that she can stay with mum for as long as she wants. I enquired at the local police, they say she is old enough to decide where she wants to live, and basically her mother cannot force her to move.

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