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Impending divorce

56 replies

Jimineycricket · 06/01/2020 20:55

Never ever posted on here and a bit scared but would welcome advice.. my husband of 6 years and father of my 2 kids 5 and under left me in the summer as I’d run up a debt and not told him and I’m “ shit with money” I do work and earn my own money but from the start of our relationship he insisted i pay it all into a joint account which was fair enough. Only he then started printing out the bank statements and then highlighting everything I spent and got cross about it. He wouldn’t let me do the food shop as I spent too much and then took my bank card away to “ protect” our finances from me. Then I had the kids. He didn’t cope well with them as newborns and I did everything, all night feeds etc. With my youngest daughter he was awful. Just had no patience at all at shouted at her right from a newborn. Anyway he walked out in August and had blamed me entirely as I ran up a debt. For years he’s sworn at me, told me to “ shut the fuck up” called me a dribbling alcoholic, useless at driving, told me my kids will be embarrassed of me, I can’t be trusted to make any decisions, I’m bi polar etc etc. I’m now on anti depressants and feel like a burden to everyone and have no confidence. When we met I supervised a department, was a bubbly size 6 gym bunny with no debts. Now I’m overweight, heavily medicated with severe anxiety. Yet I still feel so sad about the separation and feel an utter failure. Does it get easier? Or aibu to move on and forge a new life. I feel so guilty about my mistakes and responsible as I did run up a debt. My dad died when I was heavily pregnant with my first and then then had a traumatic Labour with my first and I did lose the plot a bit. I just feel so sad and hopeless all the time but need to get the divorce sorted and keep a stable environment for my kids

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ShawshanksRedemption · 06/01/2020 22:15

Ah, I thought it was a debt ran up due to his abuse. OP, you had to do it to survive and feed your family - he forced you into debt. Please don't feel you did the wrong thing - you put your kids basic needs first and that's not wrong at all. Effectively he broke the law using coercive control to abuse you, and deprive his children too.

Do you have legal representation at all? Or have you chatted to Women's Aid? Just so you have some advice and support as I'm sure he will kick back hard and continue his abuse when the divorce gets rolling.
www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/financial-abuse/

CactusAndCacti · 06/01/2020 22:17

Little, baby steps, OP at first and then you can do the big strides and the running.

You have achieved so much already - getting a handle on the debt, re-establishing your friendships

You are not scared to go home - hold onto that, that is massive.

Chances are you will have wobbles along the way, but you have support to get back up and to continue moving forwards.

Jimineycricket · 06/01/2020 22:18

I am seeing a very good solicitor. Do feel very lonely though .hes living with his parents with no housework or bills while I’m struggling trying to work, raise the kids, pay bills etc. Feel such a total loser

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ImNotACuntYoureACunt · 06/01/2020 22:18

You’ve been abused for several years by this monster so it’s no wonder you feel at such a low ebb. It will get better though, I promise it will. You might never be the woman you once were but the woman you can become now can still bring you pride and happiness it just takes time.

Counselling will probably help you and have you heard of the freedom programme? It’s really a tool to help you spot early warning signs of abusers but it can also really help to show how these types of men behave and that there’s literally nothing you can do to have changed them treating you that way. Women’s aid sometimes offer the courses if you contact your most local one but obviously depends on how in demand they are. Best of luck with your new life OP. Be kind to yourself.

Weenurse · 06/01/2020 22:19

Some really good advice here by PP.
Good luck 💐

Weffiepops · 06/01/2020 22:20

He's an abusive arsehole, well done for getting away from him. Build up your life and never look back

peardrops1 · 06/01/2020 22:21

I'm really glad you've got a good solicitor, OP. What a disgusting, abusive piece of shit he is. Things will only get better for you now, even if it doesn't always feel like it. I'm terrified for the next woman he lures in.

MarieFromStTropez · 06/01/2020 22:22

He sounds like the source of all your problems.

CactusAndCacti · 06/01/2020 22:23

hes living with his parents with no housework or bills while I’m struggling trying to work, raise the kids, pay bills etc. Feel such a total loser

You are not the loser - you are working, paying the bills, raising the children, getting up every day and facing it despite everything - and he is being tucked into bed by Mummy.

Do not under estimate what you are made of.

AdoraBell · 06/01/2020 22:23

Hang in there, it will get better. He is abusive and has broken your spirit over the years, but it’s your spirit. You can rebuild that. I’m glad that your friends have been in contact, lean on them for now.

Re the savings, definitely get your solicitor to raise that and give them all and any info you have, bank statements showing your salary going into the joint acc and the transfer he made to remove the money.

mummmy2017 · 06/01/2020 22:23

I bet he doesn't realise half your debts are his.
Also half the savings belong to you
Hope you have house equity, and some of his pension.....

Weenurse · 06/01/2020 22:27

I hope he has to sell his new car to pay you back 😎

EsmeSwan · 06/01/2020 22:31

Omg OP you are allowed to get a credit card, go shopping and do what you want. In the whole time you have been with him he has took all your money on the pretence that you were bad with money, but look what he has spent it on? Wise up quick and start fighting back. He is abusing you and your DC. Go please get legal advice, put a block on your joint account and take your life back! Thanks

CallmeAngelina · 06/01/2020 22:31

You will probably find that your depression miraculously lifts now he's no longer pulling you down.
Make sure he pays what you deserve.
Good luck.

AbbieLexie · 06/01/2020 22:32

You're a star. Flowers Flowers Lots of wise words from very knowledgable posters - pay heed. Fight and take everything you are entitled to. You can do this - life is beginning to improve for you and the children - it will get even better.

Jimineycricket · 06/01/2020 22:34

Thanks all. I did look at the freedom project as friends have said for years things aren’t right: trouble Is I feel so guilty about he debt that I ve figured I deserved the abuse. He made me feel utterly useless and worthless.

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Jimineycricket · 06/01/2020 22:40

Oh I hope he has to sell it too

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Jimineycricket · 06/01/2020 22:42

I’m so touched by all the response. I ve had years of being told I’m “ mental” and weird. It’s only now I’m seeing thar maybe the one with the issues wasn’t me

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Queenie8 · 06/01/2020 22:44

OP you're not a loser, he's worn you down.

You've sorted out the debt. You and your dc are safe and will be happier.

Take one day at a time. He has given you the best gift ever, your freedom.

user1470132907 · 06/01/2020 22:45

“He’s living with his parents”. Sorry but we know who’s the loser here 😆.

Both my mum and sister were in relationships where they were forced into debt for family essentials due to what is recognised today as financial abuse/coercion. It’s really horrible and makes you feel horrible and like you’ve done something wrong but loads of capable, intelligent women end up in your situation.

You’re not going to feel better straight away but money stuff sounds like it is already getting sorted and both you and your kids will be happier without him around being horrible to you. You’ll probably start to see your friends again a lot more so may end up less lonely than you think!

Justtryingtobehelpful · 06/01/2020 22:48

He sounds horrid. Yes, the body keeps score so you'll feel better with him gone.
Find and read Why Does He Do That by Bancroft Lundy. There's a defining too to download. His type and actions are in there. It'll make you realise the issue was him not you!!

Justtryingtobehelpful · 06/01/2020 22:49

PDF online *

user1470132907 · 06/01/2020 22:49

Oh and my dad, who did this to my mum, was buying expensive cars and suits while the rest of us struggled for basic food, underwear and sanitary towels. To this day, he thinks he is amazing with money. He’s just retired having done no forward planning and created a mind-bogglingly messy set of financial affairs, and the pigeons are slowly coming home to roost. PMSL regularly 😂.

VBT2 · 06/01/2020 22:50

Take him to the cleaners. He deserves it.

And take yourself to the gym, it will help you feel better and recapture some of the you he’s ground down over the years.

slipperywhensparticus · 06/01/2020 22:52

Make him pay half the debt it was ran up.during the marriage he pays half

Do you have proof of savings? Half should be yours

Make sure you file for him to pay towards the divorce

Dont let him win